Had enough - I'm sick of the behaviour of some teachers

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18 Jun 2010, 3:54 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bMCeCry728[/youtube]

Video outlines the point.



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18 Jun 2010, 4:29 am

Hmm, one head teacher at my daughters school refused to believe in 'things like Dyspraxia', she hand picked the kids to be in her class and was a bully thank god she wasn't my daughters teacher. The only contact they had was once when Hannah forgot to take her togs (first time) to swimming sports and inspite of another girl having a spare pair that were offered (with the Mums blessing) the teacher wouldn't allow it 'to teach her a lesson', Hannah was really upset. Someone shoulda thrown said bullying teacher in the pool to 'teach her a lesson' I reckon.

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18 Jun 2010, 5:07 am

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Hmm, one head teacher at my daughters school refused to believe in 'things like Dyspraxia', she hand picked the kids to be in her class and was a bully thank god she wasn't my daughters teacher. The only contact they had was once when Hannah forgot to take her togs (first time) to swimming sports and inspite of another girl having a spare pair that were offered (with the Mums blessing) the teacher wouldn't allow it 'to teach her a lesson', Hannah was really upset. Someone shoulda thrown said bullying teacher in the pool to 'teach her a lesson' I reckon.

Peter Williams FTW!


What an awful woman, Someone needs to line these people up and throw rotten vege at them. Dear god, I can imagine the absolute fury I would uinleash on the school if that happened to my child. The school would regret it, one hell of a big stink and I would alert the media about bully teachers too.

I'd actually better take him out of my avatar, I wouldn't want to be sued through contriversial things i've said :s



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18 Jun 2010, 5:21 am

i was not in main stream school for long , but when i was there, teachers tried to tell me what do do and how to act.

one teacher told me i was not allowed to put my hands in my pockets, but they were my pockets, and that teacher did not own my trousers, and had no right to tell me what i could do with my trousers.

i became quarrelsome and told that teacher that they had no ownership of any garment that i was dressed in, and therefore i did not have to obey their demand that my hands were banned from entering my pockets.

how dare he tell me that i was not allowed to put my hands inside my pockets when my own family paid for those trousers. the trousers were my property and not his.

the situation escalated until i was sent to his office, and i was expected to receive a caning, and i refused the teachers request for me to put my hand out to be struck, and then he pulled on my ear lobe very hard and i hit him in his face with my hand.

i was considered to be in the wrong by the principle (to whom the teacher complained) and i was expelled.

that was an example of bullying as far as i was concerned because he did not own my pants, and he had no right to tell me i had no right to put my hands in them.

at the next school i was at, i was in trouble for something or another, and the head science teacher was looking at me and i began to smirk.
he told me to wipe the smile off my face. i rubbed my face with my hands, but i could not get the smile off my face and i could not help but smile.
he went into a rage and he grabbed my shirt and twisted my collar tightly and pushed me against a wall. he said that he was the boss and i would learn a lesson.
i elbowed him so he would let me go, and he hit the back of my head with his palm and my forehead hit the wall and then it was on for young and old.
i was expelled that afternoon, and it was only because i had an expression on my face.

he did not like my expression and so i got kicked out of school and my parents got mad at me and i was not allowed to watch TV for 2 nights after that as punishment!.

it was my face and i had my problems in controlling what expression was on it, and he had no right to cause me suffering because he did not like it. he did not own my face, but i got punished because he did not like how i operated my face and i was the loser.

the world is full of people who assume authority over things they do not own (usurpation) , and i think that constitutes bullying.

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18 Jun 2010, 5:27 am

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i was not in main stream school for long , but when i was there, teachers tried to tell me what do do and how to act.

one teacher told me i was not allowed to put my hands in my pockets, but they were my pockets, and that teacher did not own my trousers, and had no right to tell me what i could do with my trousers.

i became quarrelsome and told that teacher that they had no ownership of any garment that i was dressed in, and therefore i did not have to obey their demand that my hands were banned from entering my pockets.

how dare he tell me that i was not allowed to put my hands inside my pockets when my own family paid for those trousers. the trousers were my property and not his.

the situation escalated until i was sent to his office, and i was expected to receive a caning, and i refused the teachers request for me to put my hand out to be struck, and then he pulled on my ear lobe very hard and i hit him in his face with my hand.

i was considered to be in the wrong by the principle (to whom the teacher complained) and i was expelled.

that was an example of bullying as far as i was concerned because he did not own my pants, and he had no right to tell me i had no right to put my hands in them.

at the next school i was at, i was in trouble for something or another, and the head science teacher was looking at me and i began to smirk.
he told me to wipe the smile off my face. i rubbed my face with my hands, but i could not get the smile off my face and i could not help but smile.
he went into a rage and he grabbed my shirt and twisted my collar tightly and pushed me against a wall. he said that he was the boss and i would learn a lesson.
i elbowed him so he would let me go, and he hit the back of my head with his palm and my forehead hit the wall and then it was on for young and old.
i was expelled that afternoon, and it was only because i had an expression on my face.

he did not like my expression and so i got kicked out of school and my parents got mad at me and i was not allowed to watch TV for 2 nights after that as punishment!.

it was my face and i had my problems in controlling what expression was on it, and he had no right to cause me suffering because he did not like it. he did not own my face, but i got punished because he did not like how i operated my face and i was the loser.

the world is full of people who assume authority over things they do not own (usurpation) , and i think that constitutes bullying.

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Was this recently or when hitting was allowed in school?



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18 Jun 2010, 5:28 am

hale_bopp wrote:
nostromo wrote:
Hmm, one head teacher at my daughters school refused to believe in 'things like Dyspraxia', she hand picked the kids to be in her class and was a bully thank god she wasn't my daughters teacher. The only contact they had was once when Hannah forgot to take her togs (first time) to swimming sports and inspite of another girl having a spare pair that were offered (with the Mums blessing) the teacher wouldn't allow it 'to teach her a lesson', Hannah was really upset. Someone shoulda thrown said bullying teacher in the pool to 'teach her a lesson' I reckon.

Peter Williams FTW!


What an awful women, Someone needs to line these people up and throw rotten vege at them. Dear god, I can imagine the absolute fury I would uinleash on the school if that happened to my child. The school would regret it, one hell of a big stink and I would alert the media about bully teachers too.

I'd actually better take him out of my avatar, I wouldn't want to be sued through contriversial things i've said :s

My wife who is extremely non-confrontational got fired up and went to the school and confronted the teacher outside her classroom (I was so proud!), told her what she thought of her and her behaviour but the teacher didn't see anything wrong with her behaviour. They just had to agree to disagree.
But anyone she's gone, left..along with the ding bat principle Yay!



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18 Jun 2010, 5:41 am

hale_bopp wrote:
b9 wrote:
i was...etc
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Was this recently or when hitting was allowed in school?


it was when hitting was allowed



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18 Jun 2010, 7:01 am

I've been lucky and it has never been worse than not helping me or a friend when bullied.


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18 Jun 2010, 7:23 am

I had a teacher who would single me out and bullly me in front of everyone. I think certian people become teachers so they can become small scale dictors. A lot of my teachers seemed to have a God complex.


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18 Jun 2010, 7:44 am

The title "teacher" related to some people in the teaching profession is as inappropriate as the title "parent" for many people who have children.

Also, wannabe parents should be well educated not on the hollywood lifestyle but on things that matter, ie, nutrition, social aspects.
Some people have even suggested that child licences are a good idea, but I think the aforementioned education is important.

Teachers should have psychological evaluations before going into teaching because some of them are just scum who think "I'm gonna bully little kids"

When I was at school, it was a nice catholic school, where teachers were so peace-loving that they never shouted at the pupils or even were physically agressive to them. Yes, I am being sarcastic of course.

Some of them should never have been teachers because they did not have the mental toughness or perhaps its just balance to deal with kids with god knows how many problems.

It's going to get worse as well unless a totally new system of education is created, with super teachers, practically raised from a young age to teach. The schools would also need some cool-headed tough people to cool situations down.

The only trouble is that the gang/drug/lost culture is totally pervasive and that psychos band together, forming large gangs of people that are either in it because they like it or in it because they need protection.

Terrible.

I would never go to school in this day and age. I just could not survive it.



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18 Jun 2010, 8:59 am

I've luckily never been bullied, or I have been blissfully unaware.
One time I had a teacher in high school who would not accept missing the previous day in school because of a day-long hospital visit as a valid excuse for not having done my homework. She was being so unreasonable causing the entire class got rebellious and she dropped the whole matter. Class 1 - Teacher 0 :D



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18 Jun 2010, 10:22 am

What makes these people even consider teaching to begin with? It is just perverse behavior finding enjoyment in manipulating or hurting another being.

When I was in first grade (6 years old) and the teacher hit me in the back of the head when I was called on to read and had lost my place. I sat there and cried silently. Of course, its not until your older that you realize this is unacceptable. I know two people with dyslexia who were humiliated in front of the class for their so-called inability to learn. I wish people would stop calling it "bullying". I know it is just considered commonplace and something people are told to tolerate or standup for oneself, which can not just turn ugly but can even result in death. It is either harassment or assault, plain and simple.



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18 Jun 2010, 11:25 am

Luckily I was never really bullied by any teachers. Almost all teachers I have had were good.



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18 Jun 2010, 11:55 am

Most people that go into teaching go in for the power. I head this teacher in high school(for spacial needs non less) that would flick my ear every time we walked past. I asked my mom want to do and she would say "he is just playing" one day I walked up to him in front of class and returned the favor...I got in a lot of trouble and no one cared that he was doing it to me every day. They told me it was about timing and I told them "it was never a good time for me when he did it to me"

At the school I was fired from I got to see teachers in a new light. Some teachers singled out kids because their older brother/sister was a pain in the class last year. One teacher was as mean as a kid whom hadnaspergers because he was always full of energy. So he was always thought of as disrupting class. Yet a kid 10 times as and got away with it because he was on drugs and the mom asked for daily up dates.

Stand up for your self at school, don't let teachers boss you around.


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18 Jun 2010, 2:42 pm

mesona wrote:
Most people that go into teaching go in for the power.


I haven't found that to be true at all, but enough of them do that it's a problem for sure.

I've had my own kids "on alert" to tell us about any behavior they don't agree with in their teachers, to let us decide whether anything we think is inappropriate going on. It has seldom occurred but we have seen signs of attitudes we didn't care for. Our kids have aides that work with them as part of their IEP's. The aids send notes home in a daily journal, and we occasionally see things in them that indicate attitudes that could cause problems. Whenever we do, we make point to send emails or bring it up at a meeting if there is one coming up soon enough. Most of the time, our point of view is acknowledged and agreed with. Once in a while though, especially in the case of one son placed in a special school that was supposedly very good at dealing with AS kids, we run into stonewalling people who think they know better than we do how to handle our own kids. We pulled our son out of that school because of it. If they aren't going to listen to us, how the hell are we supposed to work with them? I'm not about to support tactics I don't agree with.

Occasionally some teachers act as if we don't know what the hell we are talking about, and don't know our own kids. We deal with teachers like that by telling them, "Fine, then when you have problems with him in the future, don't call me about them anymore. But you are not to lay a hand on him, nor are you to do anything that might humiliate him (we do give specifics). The boys have all been told they can call home at any time if they are having problems here at school. You are to allow them to do so, so I can deal with it personally. If you can't handle it, turn the problem over to ME."

They always ask me "What if they won't let me?" and I tell them to tell me if they aren't allowed, and I will talk to the school and demand they be allowed. I've never had to.

They do call me from time to time when they are having difficulties, and it usually works out quite well. On rare occasions, I've had to go get them. Most of the time I can talk them into sticking it out, even if they don't get any work done. I've found that once this is done a few times, as uncomfortable as the teachers may be with allowing it, the teachers see that calling home usually gets better results than whatever they were doing.

I have found that the vast majority of them may be hard to convince to think outside the box, but in the end are open minded enough to admit it often works.


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18 Jun 2010, 3:01 pm

I know there are bad teachers out there; and I do believe in confronting, correcting or removing them; but I want to stick up for all the wonderful teachers I have met in real life. My kids have now encountered more than 20 different teachers and I have had issues with only 2. What is more, it was an attentive and caring teacher that first suggested we get our son evaluated, and teachers who spotted his autism. Few things in life can be painted with broad brush strokes, and that includes teaching. The vast majority of teachers I have encountered have positive and selfless reason for choosing the profession, and are incredibly dedicated. The few who are not ... it would be nice to help them something different to do ;)

I do wonder how much of it relates to local culture. I cannot imagine a teacher getting away here, in this specific county, with the bullying you've described, Hale bopp, and I am really sad you've had those experiences. But, then again, my kids play in "every child gets field time" soccer leagues, and swim on "it's about having fun" swim teams, etc. People here are aggressively politically correct. Even the teachers I haven't cared for, it's been more about natural ability and philosophy than anything that even came close to bullying. One was being pretty difficult with my son, not that he ever said anything (I learned about it from another mother whose daughter was upset by it), and one email where I pointed out how the conflict was coming across squashed it. The teacher sat down with my son that day and said, "I think maybe we haven't understood each other very well, and I'd like to fix it."


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