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25 May 2011, 6:04 pm

What would the world be like of it was ruled by people with aspergers?Maybe if the whole world had aspergers.I think a lot more things would be done because each politician would be set with their own projects.I'm might say that politicians would be much more hard headed but politicians can't get anymore hard headed than they are now.I think there would be more fights in congress in parliament than real wars.Also, what is your personnel political affiliation?I am a socialist anarchist myself.Whenever you hear a political debate, you see they begin talking about morals and what's "right" or "wrong".That's the issue with government.I believe the people should look out for humanity as a whole.There should be no law.I think only voluntary tax should be in place.A universal organization should look out for people in need(at times we are all like this) of things like medicine and food.I also believe we need to create machines to do the jobs of the poor.Humanity should focus more on art and science(aspies are good at that).



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25 May 2011, 6:48 pm

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I think only voluntary tax should be in place.

A "voluntary tax" is just another term for donation. In which case I agree with you, as I am a free market libertarian.



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25 May 2011, 7:01 pm

A voluntary tax is a contradiction, society doesn't function without the contribution of every member, if everyone has a choice then how are those who have nothing but the clothes on their back going to get anywhere? Taxes are the price you pay for living in civil society.

anyhoo, people with aspergers are all over the political spectrum, but I can imagine a more technocratic society, and less centrist.

I'm a socialist anarchist myself btw, and I think taxes are compatable with communal ownership and direct democracy, how the taxes are managed is the key difference here : top down bureuacracy versus democratic allocation.


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25 May 2011, 7:51 pm

The biggest problem with a voluntary tax is that no one would pay it! Who wants to give up the money that they earned?
When it comes to taxes, there should be a flat percentage that everyone has to pay, and the only deductibles would be for a single morgage and for kids. Unfortunately, no one in power would vote for that because they don't want to give up any of their wealth.

I don't have a particular political alignment.


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25 May 2011, 8:18 pm

I see your reasoning.I guess that's right.There should be taxes everyone must pay.The problem is how are we going to get anyone to pay the taxes if we can't force them.Should we take their benefits away?



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26 May 2011, 6:22 am

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A voluntary tax is a contradiction, society doesn't function without the contribution of every member, if everyone has a choice then how are those who have nothing but the clothes on their back going to get anywhere? Taxes are the price you pay for living in civil society.

What do you mean "how will they get anywhere"? Are you suggesting it's ok for someone to rob me in order to pay for a bus fare they can't afford?



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26 May 2011, 6:32 am

The biggest difference would be a shift away from personality driven elections. With an aspie government candidates would actually focus on policies much more, and there wouldn't be an emphasis on smiling like an idiot for the cameras, and carefully coached body language.



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26 May 2011, 11:56 am

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The biggest difference would be a shift away from personality driven elections. With an aspie government candidates would actually focus on policies much more, and there wouldn't be an emphasis on smiling like an idiot for the cameras, and carefully coached body language.


+1

I hate that so much, it seems to be now "Vote for me because I have a bigger toe than Nick Clegg" or something. Bring on aspie govt ftw!



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26 May 2011, 12:51 pm

Tantricbadass wrote:
. also believe we need to create machines to do the jobs of the poor.Humanity should focus more on art and science(aspies are good at that).


Umm if you create machines to do the jobs of the poor then they will really have a hard time..as there will be no jobs for them. so I don't know if that is the best idea.



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26 May 2011, 10:59 pm

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I hate that so much, it seems to be now "Vote for me because I have a bigger toe than Nick Clegg" or something. Bring on aspie govt ftw!


The best way of doing it is to look outside the main political parties, to those that you might believe in. Or perhaps distinct sections of the "big tent" parties.



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27 May 2011, 4:08 am

I'd be happy if we just stopped letting Socialized Sociopaths run government.



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27 May 2011, 6:53 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Tantricbadass wrote:
. also believe we need to create machines to do the jobs of the poor.Humanity should focus more on art and science(aspies are good at that).


Umm if you create machines to do the jobs of the poor then they will really have a hard time..as there will be no jobs for them. so I don't know if that is the best idea.

The goods produced by the machines will cost far less, though.



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27 May 2011, 1:40 pm

Burzum wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Tantricbadass wrote:
. also believe we need to create machines to do the jobs of the poor.Humanity should focus more on art and science(aspies are good at that).


Umm if you create machines to do the jobs of the poor then they will really have a hard time..as there will be no jobs for them. so I don't know if that is the best idea.

The goods produced by the machines will cost far less, though.


Well how would the poor make money to spend on these cheaper goods...if there are no jobs for them to do? I mean if it was a society structured completely differently and peoples jobs where not the source of income then I can see it but as it stands now less jobs might not be so good.



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27 May 2011, 4:37 pm

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Well how would the poor make money to spend on these cheaper goods...if there are no jobs for them to do? I mean if it was a society structured completely differently and peoples jobs where not the source of income then I can see it but as it stands now less jobs might not be so good.

When goods become cheaper people don't need to work as often. So the people with jobs can work less hours, allowing the people without jobs to work the hours that they otherwise would have worked.

This can be demonstrated by looking at working hours during the 19th century. The typical work day could reach from 10 to 18 hours. Today the average work day is usually 6 to 8 hours, due to more technologically advanced machinery making goods cheaper.



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27 May 2011, 4:42 pm

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Today the average work day is usually 6 to 8 hours, due to more technologically advanced machinery making goods cheaper.


So your argument that as time goes on, generally working conditions and freedom is enhanced rather than minimised? Well, feck me with a brick, but you'd never know it the way our politicians act.



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27 May 2011, 4:59 pm

Burzum wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Well how would the poor make money to spend on these cheaper goods...if there are no jobs for them to do? I mean if it was a society structured completely differently and peoples jobs where not the source of income then I can see it but as it stands now less jobs might not be so good.

When goods become cheaper people don't need to work as often. So the people with jobs can work less hours, allowing the people without jobs to work the hours that they otherwise would have worked.

This can be demonstrated by looking at working hours during the 19th century. The typical work day could reach from 10 to 18 hours. Today the average work day is usually 6 to 8 hours, due to more technologically advanced machinery making goods cheaper.


I suppose I can see that......but still with the sort of system we have in place there would have to be some lower level jobs because not everyone is going to go to college or be capable of doing the more complex jobs. So that would have to be kept in mind.