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13 Jul 2011, 8:43 am

This is just a flight of fancy, but I've had an obsession with Vulcans since as early as I can remember. I watched TOS growing up and I suppose I related to Spock's logical thought process and confusion about human behavior.

It's not a new idea that Spock is a model of Asperger's Syndrome. There is even a book about "loving people with AS" called "Loving Mr. Spock".

If everyone in the world had ASD, maybe our society would resemble that of the Vulcans? For those who don't know, the Vulcans were not always so logical... the philosophy of logic and emotional restraint emerged only after a long history of a passion-governed race engaging in destructive civil wars. Before the Vulcans reached "philosophical maturity", they first underwent an even more destructive period where the followers of logic battled the followers of passion, ending ultimately in nuclear holocaust and the expulsion of the "Romulans" from Vulcan.

Vulcan history:
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Vulcan_history

Surak, who founded the Vulcan philosophy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surak

Maybe Aspies are the beginning of humankind's Awakening. :P



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13 Jul 2011, 9:30 am

Somehow I think not. THere's no reason to advocate specialness of such a kind. If you want to know what I feel about what we are then take a look at one of my threads.



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13 Jul 2011, 9:41 am

Gedrene wrote:
Somehow I think not. THere's no reason to advocate specialness of such a kind. If you want to know what I feel about what we are then take a look at one of my threads.


It would be helpful if you posted a link to a relevant thread.

My post was tongue in cheek, I'm not actually advocating anything (although Vulcan philosophy has its appeal).



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13 Jul 2011, 10:12 am

It's fun to think about. It's definatly one option for the future. Who knows how things will turn out though.



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13 Jul 2011, 10:23 am

Koko23 wrote:
It would be helpful if you posted a link to a relevant thread.

My post was tongue in cheek, I'm not actually advocating anything (although Vulcan philosophy has its appeal).


Very sorry if I went overboard. it's just that I have just recently been dealing with an autism supremacist and I feel just a bit on edge about us as the next evolution of mankind or some other weird stuff.

Here I talk about the problems of the spectrum theory from empirical evidence I have gathered over the years:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt168022.html

Here I speak against arguments of supremacism, being the next evolutionary stage and other arguments with dangerous implications and implore people to actually go out and succeed and endure as all other Humans endure and argue that we misunderstand others because in the same situation we would speak differently:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt167875.html

And here I lampoon an experiment by two scientists on scientific american and Theory of Mind:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt167776.html



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13 Jul 2011, 12:14 pm

I wanted to be a Vulcan , in fact I wanted to grow up to be a Vulcan.

You don't think this is the key to explaining AS do you? Spock was our role model and we unconsciously copied him :) , just like BF Skinner's baby ducks following the first thing they see on hatching resembling a parent duck?

I never wanted the pointed ears though for some reason.



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14 Jul 2011, 11:28 pm

I was 11 when Star Trek first aired and I too imediately identified with Spock. When I first went to college I even enrolled as a space science major. I think AS is a difference, but not a superiority thing. To mix metaphors, that is too much a Magneto and Brotherhood of mutants thing. I think the human brain is very diverse and AS is just part of that diversity. To me AS explains a lot as to why I acted ways that I did over the years, but an explanation is not an excuse. I think we should have a better appreciation of the Vulcan Philosopy of the IDIC on this planet. We all need more respect for infinite diversity in infinite combinations. Thanks for listening, Steve.



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16 Jul 2011, 5:32 pm

I see AS being a step to a time lord the mind to understand time travel the enjoying lonelyness and being able to step away from others problems when need be.


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16 Jul 2011, 6:04 pm

Vulcans aren't even human. Why would you apply human mental disorders to non-humans?


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