autism supremacy is a need

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As an Autism Supremacist I believe we must fight fire with fire. I think Non Autistics are insecure and some will persecute autistics because of this. We must not allow them to interfere with the actions of autistic people. They must be stopped from legislating against us and trying to cure us. Pre-Natal scanning and abortion must be made illegal to protect future autistic generations. It will be made illegal to take away someones rights and life in an asylum. It will be frowned upon for parents to kill autistic children in the future. Autism supremacy is the only way forward.

Last edited by aspie48 on 21 Jun 2011, 9:01 pm, edited 2 times in total.

i am totally agree with you.
not a ill,just a kind of people,NTs you can't accept it,or shock by it,is your problem,you need change.not define us as a ill to make you easy.

Reverse discrimination doesn't seem to be the answer. If prenatal testing is developed then a person with autism who is also female has the right to abort that which is not potentially of autism as well. People abort so called N.T's all the time as it is. That is a human right under the law unless changed. Yet most of what you said just is not sensible in the real-world. An inferiority to superiority complex is not a solution either. Human is human and quite simply a mode of adaptation is very well helped by the mainstream world and to utilize intelligence to further adaptation potentials without unneeded conflict is not only wise but intelligent. Quit combining abortion and unrelated issues. Your not even doing it in a sly way in attempt to guilt others indirectly as other advocates do who are wrong to do so as well.

This social game of you diagnosed me inferior but in fact I am superior is childish and folks when applicable need to move on. Focusing on such things is VERY wasteful. Productive progress does not require these types of manipulative guilt trips and methods of underhanded unfriendliness amongst human diversity of minds and neurology.

I have heard of a movement to declare people on the spectrum as a minority, with all it's attendant benefits. This might actually be of more benefit than falling into the old trap of declaring who is supreme. That's a no win situation, IMO.

http://www.petitiononline.com/AFFDec/petition.html

Here you go again with the self deprecation again ci, may i ask, what does it gain you? why do you want your people aborted, killed? thanks for the complement that i am not sly or inspiring guilt i am a believer in transparency and saying everything right the first time. maybe its because i don't have anything to hide, im not insecure. And again with the diagnosis point NT's work by putting people down, they diagnosed us inferior and made sure that we would have no self esteem as a way to put themselves up. By sweeping yourself under the rug and thinking you are fighting a noble cause you are bowing to their wishes.

Change the laws if you don't like it. However when you essentially accuse the mainstream public of such harsh things they ignore you. Learn to be more diplomatic. There is good reason for autism to be considered a disability. If you are disabled you get help and that's how society works and not simply because they are up tight as a whole and look down at you from a platform of superiority. The so called N.T's or best said as the vast majority of people are not Nazi's, are not hateful, do not believe you or myself are inferior and do not strategically intend to make sure you have no self-esteem. At some point you should realize your own thoughts you are responsible for in these schemes of aspie oppression by the N.T's. This is part of the reason why pride advocacy has failed and others including those on the spectrum steer clear from it. It's all about making up a bunch of huff and puff as if the world is out to get me and others and we should believe it because it's true.

There are simply much better approaches and those kinds of approaches I've utilized with success. It's your right to persist. Yet it is my and others right just to not want anything to do with such advocacy's. It is understandable that individuals who have been bullied may at times express such ideas but ultimately the tact is not useful, counter-productive and alienating. Folks should have the understanding they have been bullied but beyond that these kinds of social strategies are not proper leadership and lead to defeat and defeatism.

aspie48 I think my message was clear enough - if you want this thread to continue please edit your OP according to the ToS

I think that I made the point this has nothing to do with self advocacy. There is no use comparing my movement to a completely irrelevant philosophy. hmm... ci i have never seen you use any other type of argumentation other than unclear, circumstantial, and unsupported arguments. You are right that no NT's will join this movement but that is precisely the point of it. It is simply a gateway to success for ALL AUTISTIC people. and why not use this attitude to build confidence to overcome bullying?

Politics is all about circumstantial evidence and counter-arguments. A vast majority of people on the spectrum would not join with your philosophy. There is no point for me to continue argue with you. I feel that your philosophy sets people up to fail, devoids common sense and is not properly preparing individuals for the real reality that in order to be most successfully included they also must treat others as equals inter-personally. It's when folks give respect that they can expect respect. Then it is on others who look down on others as you image a vast majority do when they do not that those that do not respect others as equals will be the ones left out more then they could be otherwise included.

Everyone has faults and abilities.

Thank you aspie48 for cooperating with me in order for this thread to be unlocked

thanx a lot. looking back at it i can see that it would be better left as an opinion and a debating point.

And how do you plan to overcome the 90 some % of neurotypicals?

well i am thinking of having a small elite of autistic people who support the rest of the autistic people. I think the population would grow quickly if autistic people got more successful families. and remember it really only takes a minority to rule a majority.

So your plan is one you will not realize in your lifetime... building generations is slow business.

In general - I love the idea of autistic people, with the talent and disposition for teaching - to assist others on the spectrum. It just seems to make sense. I'm not so sure how much support you'll get with language like 'elite' and' superior' - after all, many of your more famous modern dictators use that same language - but the core idea is admirable.

I'm not sure if you realize it or not but this is exactly what ci is doing - in real time, right now.

@draelynn yeah i think ci has a very different attitude towards what he is doing though. i am more concerned with superiority. you would be surprise how much support my movement has gained just by me marketing it to my friends in the last month since i got this idea. many people are sympathetic or interested, and a few have devoted themselves to it.

Well, good luck with that my friend. Just try not to step on those that do not deserve it no matter their neuro type.