A quick poll on autism supremacy.

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a poll to gather needed information on how people see my movement. i am free to take observations and reccomendations of what i should do in the future, just leave a comment. i will consider all responses that would not totally undo the Autism Supremacist ideals i have.

Trying to assert superiority over NT's is idiotic because we are going to need each others' skills to build a functional community. How old are you and what experience do you have working with autism anyway? You are starting to sound a whole lot like an internet commando.

I think I have given you my opinion before about how to improve the ideology, but here it is again. Market the ideology as one that promotes the ideology that Autistic people have the ability to contribute great things to society, rather that focusing on any ideology that states that autistic people are inherently better than others.

People judge people by the merits of what they do more than by the limitations or advantages that come with who they are.

A person may have the highest IQ in the world, and choose to do nothing with that intelligence that produces anything of significant impact in the world, while a person like John Kennedy can be struck by a number of physical illnesses that would put most people in their bed for life, and instead become president of the United States. Most people had no idea that a doctor carried a briefcase of medication around for the President during his entire term.

With a supremecist ideology you are approaching it from the perspective of the High IQ individual that may never accomplish anything in life, as opposed to the individual that focuses on what they want to do in life, rather than who they are, and what disadvantages or advantages they are born with.

Supremecy conjures up immediately a vision for most that is related to eugenics and those inherently weak individuals that have been associated with such ideology. It's the worst possible name that one could come up with, if they want to make a real measurable impact in life using whatever abilities they have.

In summary, focus on what you can do in life well, and come up with a new positive name for your oganization that reflects that rather than the horrible ideology that is reflected by the term supremacy when used in a human context.

And finally, try to forget that you ever heard the word NT, and if you can never use it in context with your actual philosophy to improve the life of autistic people. It's a descriptive word that is only effective in describing everyone but people that have autism.

The reality of life is to survive we have to learn how to co-exist with those around us regardless of our differences. Focusing on differences only makes it harder. Focusing on what one can do that is positive is what can make the real difference in any individual's life.

And most importantly give yourself a break, you are only 15, and life for is going to be much different for you in the future; what you do now will create that future. But, there is no guarantee that you won't make it in the real world as it is.

Give yourself a chance to change and adapt before you try to change the whole world. It's hard enough for anyone to control themselves without the weight of changing the world around them, on their shoulders.

Focus on what you and your friends do that is good, and your chances in life will likely be better.

Last edited by aghogday on 04 Aug 2011, 10:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

"Autism Supremacy" --> "Much Ado About Nothing"

Bonkers , but I sense a radical mind that once focused could achieve very worthwhile things.
Social and evolutionary change is driven by people like you but its only driven forward when others recognize their own interests in the cause.

You are fifteen . You will change you mind about many things. Then change it again.

Ahogday and guys like me could charge $100.00 PH + as visiting lecturers if we could be arsed to work in a university. You get at least one hour per week for free from us.

You get it from me because I recognize something in you and I Iike talking to you, but ask me to support a set of ideas that haven't been thought-out as a basis for governing the planet I live on, full of nuclear armed half-evolved bald apes, and I'm going to say no.

"Sorry kid you aint the one," (in this respect )"have a cookie."

the idea of overt suppression seems a tad paranoid,
human behavior will be human behavior and nothing is gonna change that anytime soon.

I refuse to dignify this poll with an answer.

To quote someone

It pretty much sums up my views.
Sitting around talking about how great you are without doing anything to prove it will only get you laughed at, and rightly so.

I would not describe myself as an autism supremacist because I don't see it in terms of certain people are superior or inferior.

However if you were to ask me whether I would rather live in an environment where autistic people were more powerful and more prevelant, then the answer would be yes. Simply because I get on better with autistic people (this has been my experience, generally speaking) and feel that society would cater for me far more and that I would fit in better. And I do support anything that helps bring this change about, but am put off by the term "supremacy."

And I don't buy either these ideas of autistic people making a "positive contribution to society" as being what should be promoted either. The reason that we have this label (autism) is because society has recognised that we don't fit into it's structure and given us a label that basically means "extra measures are required to intergrate this individual into our structure." I cosider society as the problem rather than the solution.

i dont care one way or another.hey if you can do good with autism supremacy,more power to you.ther certainly arent better options out there.me personaly i dont care one way or another

you know your music theory well.and your right about beethoven that is a classic beethoven cadence.however i see the IV-I AND V-I as the same because it would usualy come from a fourth lower instead of a fifth higher.my personal favorite is the inverted VI-I cadence like say f in the bass to A minor cord.in a major key i like to do VII-I, like say G# minor to A major

so what i am really hearing from y'all is that you think that this movement does not have a good chance of getting off the ground and many people think it is too extremist. i will think about maybe having an agressive but not over the top strategy in the future. also i am going to think about where to get money and funding from in the future.

Autism supremacy is just as bad as NT supremacy, and I oppose both. We should accept all people, rather than making a hierarchy where some people are valued more than others.

Thing is, with powerful particularly visual imagination it is possible to develop an internal model of how we would like the world to be , and these models seem very coherent at the time. The broad picture includes everone else and the planet, but some weird rule comes into play, the broader the model the less probablity you have in the real world of achieving it, or indeed anything.

If you narrow your focus to your immediate surroundings and work on getting the skills
necesssary to be ( say) self employed , then you might have more control over your personal life. If you get to that stage, one where you have a degree of autonomy and control over your life you can then link up with others similar to yourself and create mutual networks and cooperate.

This isn't world domination , just you and network of like minded people achieving your potential. This is a positive.

The other thing is if you use your focus locally rather than scattrguning all over the place you can gradually ' win 'the guy like that teacher by exceeding his and other teachers , abilities and fields of knowledge , that would be a sweet victory for you. At the moment he's got you angry and is manipulating you, pulling your strings.

Look what happens when someone who has perfected the art of focus and knowledge uses it against her opressor to devestaing effect.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTe8X8DGQJI[/youtube]

Now wouldn't you like to be able to do that if you had to?

its a good idea.start with a business plan get incorporated and start getting members,cant be any worse than asan or autism speaks

[2]....(means I agree, I have not seen people do that on this site so I was not sure if it was obvious)