Arrogance is not a need and other refuges in audacity

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In my short time here I have seen a plethora of arguments that are harmful and self-destructive to not only the arguer but to everyone around them. The most egregious example is the autism supremacy argument. So far this argument presumes that we are somehow better than our standard relatives because Einstein probably had it. Not that you yourself can't somehow show this hidden talent can you if you are so superior? And there's no point in telling me that you personally can't because that means you are incapable of adapting to a situation that doesn't favour you and if we're going to make a Supremacy argument that doesn't make you better than a whole lot of NTs. I think this attitude is best kept to NTs anyway who made it in the first place. What fool really thinks that they can make blanket statements about the whole human race?

It's immoral to not treat people as individuals in how you feel about them and you should only talk about groups when you have a damn good comprehension of what people feel, impossible in the confused and controversial climate of today. And don't you dare talk about problems we have. I know what issues we have as a community and an autism supremacy argument is the best way to lead to the worst outcome. If anything never expressing that argument would be the best outcome even if we were all superior because humility makes you less complacent and complacency destroys superiority.

The second for those who are smart enough is saying that we are autistic if we want to argue that we are just different. Autism is a word dreamed up by Leo Kanner to describe our personal isolation from other people as innate. As I have seen the last thing that we really want is to be alone and that searching for contact is a priority whenever we are not dealing with the self-loathing created by out confusing and terrible childhoods.

If anything I think much of our problems are down to us having a dissimilar cognitive style (thankyou memesplice) from the people around us. It is why we have adapted terribly to the world environment by not being told the right way about what to do as children and afterwards the incapability of dealing with the harsh world of our peers, not being taught the most comprehensive way by teachers and not being told what would be a good time to do this or that in a way we recognise. In the end we retreat from the word in fear or misery, not because we wanted to or that we can't link up with others.

People are very express about what you should do all the time (just take Encyclopedia Dramatica ), that's why we think they seem narrow-minded, but since it is mostly done in a conversational or hurtful way (Again, Encyclopedia Dramatica) that we just don't take it on board. In fact half the time complaints about us are tangentially related to what we must realise, but since it's tangential it doesn't make any damned sense. If we had been raised by people like us and lived around people like us then this could have been avoided I believe. By the time we get to adult age all we are told is that we are worse and misshapen compared to others (despite the nice language it is cloaked up in) and none of us in this part of the forum really believe that. Not even ci, who is advacting cure, thinks he is so wretched. The word autism is a part of what drags us who are capable of being as good as anyone else down into inaction.

I am afraid that I can only understand a few ideas that you stated. Please use less big words and better sentence structure.

Sorry, but please make arguments rather than cheap retorts

I agree. It is harmful to everyone. Negativity is a drug more destructive than heroin.

Thankyou. I hope I get to tell more about what I have theorised with a positive view to making all our lives better. I am interested if you have more to say :]

I do, actually. I usually have too much to say on subjects. However, please don't take my view as a chastisement but rather another thing to think about. I could be right, I could be wrong. I won't feel personally offended if you disagree.

I view a post like this to be essentially the same thing as the negative posts because it is a rallying call. Those who agree will say yes, and those who are negative will be insulted and disagree. It accomplishes little more than letting other positive thinkers have a safe place to say, "Yay! Finally some truth!"

Not that it isn't truth, because it is. Having a negative viewpoint and an us-and-them mentally hurts the individual profoundly and society as a whole.

Rather, as a positive thinker, you have to ask yourself, how can I change someone's negative view? Will they see the light from making this post? Probably not. They will most likely feel insulted. It doesn't really help anyone. Those that agree already think this way. Those that don't won't change anything other than maybe feel more bitter and angry. They will likely react negatively and insult your view because that is their truth.

So, you have to ask yourself, what is your goal? Your goal is to make negative thinkers learn that positivity is so much better. How can you best accomplish that goal? Well, you can't do it by pointing out they're wrong because they are stuck in quicksand. You have to show them the way out, hand them a rope. Not just tell them they're sinking and that they need to get out while you watch from the sidelines.

So, in my opinion, the best way to encourage a negative thinker to think positively is to encourage them. Point out their good traits. Give examples to NT's that are helpful. Be kind to them when they are not to you. Generally just care for them because they are hurt, angry, spiteful and they are plenty in number so it is really hard.

I don't really have the answer. It's really hard to make someone see the truth. People generally believe they are right about whatever they think in their heads, and if others are enthusiastically agreeing with them, it's hard to change a viewpoint.

I am open to criticism, though, so if you have another idea please say so. I am always striving to improve and I have people in my TS group that I would love to have more of an impact on.

Yes. Conflict is very destructive and why make waves when no wind is blowing?

Aye, tis what I am saying all along. Evidence for an argument is always important. What did you think of the second point I was making, about the word autistic?

I think it makes alot of sense after all autism is just a label anyway, and labels tend to cause problems.

I'm glad people are thinking sensibly and logically about autism and aspergers in general.

I am not being negative. My point of view has helped me to realize that I am better than everyone else and that I need to live up to that.

Without proof why should anyone believe you? Furthermore your blanket statements at just being better than everyone don't help your case. If you just claim you are better at things that you can't prove then that makes you a fascist.

The most basic thing you could be better at, good relations with others like you, is absolutely atroscious. This guy wasn't even talking about you specifically enough for it to be about you!

what do you mean I can't prove it? I skipped 2 grades in math and got an A. Thats much better than the NT stoners and stupid people in my class.

Well my hope is that I can become a spokesperson for other people like me. I sure would be a lot more bloody helpful than autism speaks with its tendency to attract people nattering on about vaccines and exposure to heavy metals. THeir easy answers are no less lacking in common sense than any supremacist theory.

Even Christian Weston Chandler said he was on the honor roll. And more blanket statements. Not that autistics could take drugs eh, or are you specifying NTs because you just have a burning hatred inside that makes you no better than the worst of them? Why don't you show something that really stands out because there are sure a lot of people who have done more than get an A in maths. As for the first comment you made on this thread, why don't you learn the words rather than force me to go down to the lowest common denominator? It isn't like I am forcing you to understand the finer points of the physical properties of non-newtonian fluids, or assume you know what syzygy or apraxia are.

you nag me about using bad evidence and then associate me with fascism and autism speaks with no evidence. and btw I am pretty much the opposite of autism speaks.

I didn't associate you with autism speaks at all. That was absolutely the opposite of what I would say if I ever said anything. This comment was nothing about you. You really must think the world centres around you if every comment I make has something to do with you. Also i didn't say bad evidence, In fact I thought you would have realized that you have used no evidence. As for fascism, yes I damn did. I said all your comments amounted to no more than hate speech. Now could you tell me where there is a contradiction?