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17 Nov 2011, 10:40 pm

The other day, I was putting together a poster about autism for a Health assignment. My dad suggested that I use his Autism Society stuff for the poster, and quickly brought me a business card that has tips for dealing with autism.

"Talk slowly so they can understand you."

I quite literally face-palmed. That's why people talk to us like we're deaf. The ASA tells them to.

Anyone have any other experiences with this scenario?



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17 Nov 2011, 11:00 pm

Does "Oh, Fnord is here. I guess we'll all have to talk slowly so he can keep up" seem familiar?



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17 Nov 2011, 11:12 pm

In Quebec, just being an American is enough to get the yelling so you can understand treatment, but they do it on purpose.



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17 Nov 2011, 11:51 pm

LennytheWicked wrote:
The other day, I was putting together a poster about autism for a Health assignment. My dad suggested that I use his Autism Society stuff for the poster, and quickly brought me a business card that has tips for dealing with autism.

"Talk slowly so they can understand you."

I quite literally face-palmed. That's why people talk to us like we're deaf. The ASA tells them to.

Anyone have any other experiences with this scenario?

Most on the middle and lower end of the spectrum have some degree of language processing issues, as well as attention issues and obsessive compulsive behaviors that compound the problem.


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18 Nov 2011, 12:49 am

Although I am not deaf, I have a tendency to watch people's lips when listening to them speak. For some reason I seem better able to process the audible part of what they are saying, if I also see them saying it. I have always done this, and have often been told to look people in the eye, because I was busy watching their lips instead. I know that I tend to absorb input better visually, so I think that is part of it. I also don't like talking on the phone much for that reason. I think I have a harder time making sense of what they are saying if I can't see them talking. I also can't stand it when there is a lot of static on a radio station that I am listening to. It really interferes with my ability to make sense of the program, and really ticks me off. I usually change the station, and, if nothing better is on, end up having to turn off the radio.

Being Aspy has caused many problems for me, but at least I now know the cause of my differentness. Most of my life I just felt like a freak. I knew I wasn't ret*d, or crazy, but I am not NT either. Not knowing the cause of my problems added to my stress. Now that I know what's wrong with me I can handle the stress better.

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18 Nov 2011, 1:04 am

LennytheWicked wrote:
The other day, I was putting together a poster about autism for a Health assignment. My dad suggested that I use his Autism Society stuff for the poster, and quickly brought me a business card that has tips for dealing with autism.

"Talk slowly so they can understand you."

I quite literally face-palmed. That's why people talk to us like we're deaf. The ASA tells them to.

Anyone have any other experiences with this scenario?


This made me chuckle, because sometimes people get all up in my face and talk too close to my ear, and it's way too personal and all up in my comfort zone. Which makes it worse. especially for anxiety.

It's only funny afterwards. :(

Oh! - The other day I thought briefly... I'm pretty sure the only people who know what autism.... are the ones who have it.

Because the more people you meet, the larger the variations of judgments get and if we couldn't express ourselves in words or properly we would be F*'d cause my mom used to always ask me why i'm mad.... and ill be smiling/happy just going ??? doubleU T effffff....



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18 Nov 2011, 2:30 am

"Talk slowly so they can understand you."

Regardless of one's ability, how patronizing.
The problem is "talking slowly" is often in practice "talking down" to someone. I think, even if someone has language processing issues, they shouldn't be patronized."

I am not sure why you would "talk slowly" to a deaf person.



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18 Nov 2011, 2:33 am

questor wrote:
Although I am not deaf, I have a tendency to watch people's lips when listening to them speak. For some reason I seem better able to process the audible part of what they are saying, if I also see them saying it. I have always done this, and have often been told to look people in the eye, because I was busy watching their lips instead. I know that I tend to absorb input better visually, so I think that is part of it. I also don't like talking on the phone much for that reason. I think I have a harder time making sense of what they are saying if I can't see them talking. I also can't stand it when there is a lot of static on a radio station that I am listening to. It really interferes with my ability to make sense of the program, and really ticks me off. I usually change the station, and, if nothing better is on, end up having to turn off the radio.

Being Aspy has caused many problems for me, but at least I now know the cause of my differentness. Most of my life I just felt like a freak. I knew I wasn't ret*d, or crazy, but I am not NT either. Not knowing the cause of my problems added to my stress. Now that I know what's wrong with me I can handle the stress better.
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Ok, this is creepy, because this is exactly what I do. Since I was a kid I've looked at people's mouths/lips during a conversation instead of their eyes. I didn't know that people stare right into each others eyes, until I read about aspergers/autism on the internet 5 years ago. I understand 50% of what people say from the sound and 50% from their lip movement. Many times even with volume muted I can make out what people say on TV, if their lip movement is clear.


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18 Nov 2011, 2:41 am

Dhawal wrote:
questor wrote:
Although I am not deaf, I have a tendency to watch people's lips when listening to them speak. For some reason I seem better able to process the audible part of what they are saying, if I also see them saying it. I have always done this, and have often been told to look people in the eye, because I was busy watching their lips instead. I know that I tend to absorb input better visually, so I think that is part of it. I also don't like talking on the phone much for that reason. I think I have a harder time making sense of what they are saying if I can't see them talking. I also can't stand it when there is a lot of static on a radio station that I am listening to. It really interferes with my ability to make sense of the program, and really ticks me off. I usually change the station, and, if nothing better is on, end up having to turn off the radio.

Being Aspy has caused many problems for me, but at least I now know the cause of my differentness. Most of my life I just felt like a freak. I knew I wasn't ret*d, or crazy, but I am not NT either. Not knowing the cause of my problems added to my stress. Now that I know what's wrong with me I can handle the stress better.
--Henry David Thoreau

Ok, this is creepy, because this is exactly what I do. Since I was a kid I've looked at people's mouths/lips during a conversation instead of their eyes. I didn't know that people stare right into each others eyes while talking, until I read about aspergers/autism on the internet 5 years ago. I understand 50% of what people say from the sound and 50% from their lip movement. Many times even with volume muted, I can make out what people on TV say, if their lip movement is very clear.



This is interesting because I can not lip-read at all. I actually have a hard time listening to someone while I am looking at them. That is why I have trouble with eye contact. I recently had a meeting with someone where I looked slightly off to the side, so I listen to them easier. Well, this person, who was my new boss, told me to look at him while he was talking. I did but it was a struggle to speak, listen, and look at his face all at the same time. It wasn't embarrassment. It was a processing issue.



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18 Nov 2011, 3:11 am

jackbus01 wrote:
"Talk slowly so they can understand you."

Regardless of one's ability, how patronizing.
The problem is "talking slowly" is often in practice "talking down" to someone. I think, even if someone has language processing issues, they shouldn't be patronized."

I am not sure why you would "talk slowly" to a deaf person.


I think the statement was taken the wrong way. Most people don't realize that sometimes when they get nervous they speak very fast. It was probably just advice so that the speaker/author of the original post would get the message out in an effective way. If you want someone to get the full message then you speak at a rate (usually in the middle). Otherwise if you are quick paced, your audience is going to ask a lot of questions.

Also, you don't actually talk slowly to a deaf person....you enunciate ....which will lots of times slow down your natural speaking rate.

From my perspective, talking down to someone usually involves sarcasm and "duh" remarks



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18 Nov 2011, 5:45 am

LennytheWicked wrote:
"Talk slowly so they can understand you."

I quite literally face-palmed. That's why people talk to us like we're deaf. The ASA tells them to.

Anyone have any other experiences with this scenario?

I haven't had experiences with this scenario.



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18 Nov 2011, 3:40 pm

I live in a specialist care setting for autistic people. Here the staff speak to each individual in whatever way is suitable for their functioning level. One of the guys has very poor understanding of speech if you talk too fast, but if you speak slowly to him, he completely understands. I need people to enunciate every word rather than speak slowly. Some of us can be spoken to quickly and will understand but I am not one of them.


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21 Nov 2011, 6:30 pm

Gedrene wrote:
LennytheWicked wrote:
"Talk slowly so they can understand you."

I quite literally face-palmed. That's why people talk to us like we're deaf. The ASA tells them to.

Anyone have any other experiences with this scenario?

I haven't had experiences with this scenario.


Explaining to someone that you are on the autism spectrum will sometimes lead to this. I wasn't sure why, but for some reason people think that explaining you are on the spectrum means they have to speak slowly or loudly, regardless of whether or not you were actually asking them to.



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21 Nov 2011, 8:32 pm

i had a teacher back in middle school who did this and it annoyed the hell out of me.



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21 Nov 2011, 8:44 pm

Reminds me of an old public service announcement on the radio during the seventies in our area. It was supposed to be about sensitivity to cultural differences.

It featured a redneck sounding woman shouting, "IF THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU, JUST TALK LOUDER!! !! !! !!" :lol:


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