aspergers even exists?

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hello, i don't have aspergers but i have a brother with it and hes bipolar too

he told father yesterday he feels like he isn't even asipe anymore, he's feeling pretty 'normal' in his late teen years

i was thinking 'many scientist agree aspergers dosen't excist, its more like a Nonverbal learning disorder as they don't have problems learning, they learn through words rather than pictures and learn at the same pace or even faster pace, and they speak on time or even early and have no problems vith verbal comunication'

my thoughts

does it exist and why?

Yes Asperger's exists. There is a style of neurology which holds traits to correspond with the term, and there are people who have traits and styles of neurology corresponding with them.
I don't know what scientists your referring to. Please specify them, because I do not know of any modern scientists who actually claim it doesn't exist. There are those who favored changing the dsm to put it under high functioning autism. But that was more because they thought the two were the basically the same and should be called under one term. There were some old nut scientists in the past who denied its existence, because they refused to believe in the autism spectrum. But they were discredited decades ago.
Furthermore, Asperger's doesn't need to involve any problems in learning, it can just be difference in neurological style.
I don't know where your getting this verbal non-pictoral claim from. From what I have read, many people with Asperger's are pictorially minded.
Likewise, just because someone is not effectively hindered in speaking words does not mean they don't difficulties with communicating with people; as there is still the social and communicative aspect of it.

It is good he feels that mainstreamed but it doesn't change that he is not intuitive on reading people. I spent my life with hobby of "why they do that?" And I was highly verbal at early age. I also regressed a lot after a head injury in a car wreck.
Asperger's is thrown in same hat for the Gubermint to handle, but it is not the same as autism. My youngest son is no way like my older one. He is nearly alien. But I do share enough traits & triggers and therefore can make his life less stressful for him without reading up.

Asperger's was my original diagnosis, and I can assure you that it exists because my strangeness is apparent to the casual observer and it effects my life a lot. Just because I spoke at a normal time doesn't mean that I am unimpaired in this area, I process language slower then normal and my ability to speak starts to break down when I'm under stress sometimes to the point where I have a hard time forming coherent sentences in the worst cases. Also I am a very visual learner and it helps that I have a great ability to remember photos and can even read from mental photos a bit. I also learn well with hearing things because my memory for audio is almost perfect too, but I am still better with images. I also agree that it should continue to be on the autism spectrum because I have most autistic tendencies, and when Asperger's was still a diagnosis the only difference between that and autism was the lack of speech delay.

I'm going to approach this from a mathematician's perspective. Of all the people in the world, some have the combination of traits that the DSM-IV identifies as Asperger's, and others do not. From this perspective, the distinction definitely exists. A more challenging question is whether this distinction is relevant.