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01 Jun 2012, 7:40 am

As we all know we all hate autism speaks. the organization that is making money by portraying us as lifeless humans held ransom by autism and then trying to find a cure to something that isnt a disease and which i am proud of. I however have a plan to bring down autism speaks, thius is how:
1. Bombarding their philanthropists with letters telling them to stop giving to autism speaks.
2. Protests at their fundraising events to raise awareness of our cause and to stop people giving to them.
If we keep doing those 2 things then we can bring autism speaks down and stop being ridiculed them.



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01 Jun 2012, 8:11 am

Autism Speaks funds this site partially :P


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01 Jun 2012, 9:31 am

But their also fully-funding a way to indentify if a foetus is autistic and then give their parents a choice whether to abort, they want to eradicate autistics from the face of the earth.



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01 Jun 2012, 10:26 am

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As we all know we all hate autism speaks.

That's quite a sweeping generalisation. On the results of which survey did you base it?
I hate it when people presume to know how I feel on things... when there's no way they could know.



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01 Jun 2012, 10:45 am

A sweeping statement indeed about a presumed dislike of an organisation

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But their also fully-funding a way to indentify if a foetus is autistic and then give their parents a choice whether to abort, they want to eradicate autistics from the face of the earth.

Errm, there was a poll on WP asking if we would rather not have been born. Most responses were "yes".
I certainly wish I had been terminated before birth.

The pain, oversensory issues, not being able to enjoy social situations is a disability more than a special ability. Something that I, for one, am not proud of.



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01 Jun 2012, 11:07 am

Chris71 wrote:
A sweeping statement indeed about a presumed dislike of an organisation
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But their also fully-funding a way to indentify if a foetus is autistic and then give their parents a choice whether to abort, they want to eradicate autistics from the face of the earth.

Errm, there was a poll on WP asking if we would rather not have been born. Most responses were "yes".
I certainly wish I had been terminated before birth.

The pain, oversensory issues, not being able to enjoy social situations is a disability more than a special ability. Something that I, for one, am not proud of.


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What a stupid, narcissistic answer. There are those of us who were born into this world before the DX existed, and have made a life for ourselves. You can too. I despise Autism Speaks. They are so typical of foundations that exist to solely collect money and KEEP it. Their adverts make me want to vomit.


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01 Jun 2012, 11:23 am

I don't hate Autism Speaks. I also don't think that the plan the OP has cooked up would do anything at all to them.

But hey, you do what you gotta do.


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01 Jun 2012, 11:25 am

I'd rather be alive and autistic, than an abortion statistic.


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01 Jun 2012, 11:26 am

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Chris71 wrote:
A sweeping statement indeed about a presumed dislike of an organisation
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But their also fully-funding a way to indentify if a foetus is autistic and then give their parents a choice whether to abort, they want to eradicate autistics from the face of the earth.

Errm, there was a poll on WP asking if we would rather not have been born. Most responses were "yes".
I certainly wish I had been terminated before birth.

The pain, oversensory issues, not being able to enjoy social situations is a disability more than a special ability. Something that I, for one, am not proud of.


Please .....
What a stupid, narcissistic answer. There are those of us who were born into this world before the DX existed, and have made a life for ourselves. You can too. I despise Autism Speaks. They are so typical of foundations that exist to solely collect money and KEEP it. Their adverts make me want to vomit.


I feel the same way about Autism Speaks.


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01 Jun 2012, 11:59 am

nebb wrote:
But their also fully-funding a way to indentify if a foetus is autistic and then give their parents a choice whether to abort, they want to eradicate autistics from the face of the earth.


And this is why we have christians, and anti-abortionists... there will always be autistics as long as people do not believe in abortion....



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01 Jun 2012, 12:06 pm

Chris71 wrote:
A sweeping statement indeed about a presumed dislike of an organisation
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But their also fully-funding a way to indentify if a foetus is autistic and then give their parents a choice whether to abort, they want to eradicate autistics from the face of the earth.

Errm, there was a poll on WP asking if we would rather not have been born. Most responses were "yes".
I certainly wish I had been terminated before birth.

The pain, oversensory issues, not being able to enjoy social situations is a disability more than a special ability. Something that I, for one, am not proud of.


And how many people responded to the poll? I mean I do not think a very good goal is trying to prevent autistics from being born. Though I highly doubt they are going to find e anything that shows a fetus will have autism as with other disorders there are probably many different factors that contribute they won't be able to trace it down to just one.

As for abortion I feel it is up to the individual....I do not support late term abortions though as that seems to be pushing it a bit, I mean unless its an emergency situation. But personally I think abortion should be for accidental pregnancies when the person pregnant cannot afford to take care of a child or is not capable of being responsible for a child.


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01 Jun 2012, 12:20 pm

No organization should collect money under false pretences. That's illegal. There are gov agencies that can investigate them. I think the IRS is one of them, as Autism Speaks is probably listed as a tax exempt organization. In order to maintain that listing, they have to use a reasonable amount of monies collected on actually doing charitable stuff, including research, and helping needy people with assistance programs, etc.

If you have real knowledge/proof that they are not doing this then you can report them to the gov.

As for finding a way to detect Autism in the womb to enable abortion, I am against non necessary abortions. It should only be done to save the life of the mother, or in the case of multi births, to save an in utero sibling. Every abortion stops a beating heart. The Constitution guarantees the right to life, that includes the life of an unborn child. A human fetus is made of human DNA, not that of any other creature, so it is human. It takes in nutrition, grows, gives off waste, and engages in biochemical activity, so it is alive. Killing it for non medical necessity, is therefore murder. Yes, the Constitution also guarantees the right to pursue happiness, and sometimes people are not happy that they are pregnant. However the Constitution does not guarantee that anyone will actually catch happiness if they pursue it. Also, the right to life trumps the pursuit of happiness. After all, you can't pursue happiness if you're dead. There are several alternative solutions for unwanted pregnancies. First, don't get pregnant in the first place. Second, if you do end up pregnant with an unwanted kid, put it up for adoption. Third, see if a family member would be willing to raise the kid, instead. Why are so many people so concerned about no-kill animal shelters, but okay with murdering unwanted unborn kids? And how about all those animal activist groups? I have my own take on it:

SAVE THE BABY HUMANS!! !

As for my own situation. I would have preferred to have been born normal, not aborted. Since I wasn't aborted or born normal, I have to deal with the reality that I have a disorder that makes my life among normal people very difficult. Better that than to be murdered in the womb. I will never be normal, or free of the difficulties my condition causes, but at least I have found coping methods that help some. There are also things that provide interests and activities for me, so, even dealing with chronic, lifelong low grade depression, I am not spending all day curled up in bed moaning over my fate. So my advice to parents wanting the option to abort kids with Autism or other disorders is:

ABSOLUTELY NOT!! !

There is life with Autism spectrum disorders. Granted, it's not always a good life, but it's better than being murdered in the womb. And it's better for you parents, too, as you won't have to live with the knowledge that you participated in murdering your own child.

REMEMBER, SAVE THE BABY HUMANS, INCLUDING AUTISTICS!! !


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01 Jun 2012, 1:07 pm

nebb wrote:

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As we all know we all hate autism speaks. the organization that is making money by portraying us as lifeless humans held ransom by autism and then trying to find a cure to something that isnt a disease and which i am proud of. I however have a plan to bring down autism speaks, thius is how:
1. Bombarding their philanthropists with letters telling them to stop giving to autism speaks.
2. Protests at their fundraising events to raise awareness of our cause and to stop people giving to them.
If we keep doing those 2 things then we can bring autism speaks down and stop being ridiculed them.



I don't hate Autism Speaks.

I think Autism Speaks serves a segment of the Autistic population extremely well and they are attempting to branch out.


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01 Jun 2012, 1:26 pm

My Autism, My Autism

And, They want to erudite ME. They want to kill ME.

I dont need a cure. I dont have a disability.

YOU are an unique individual with strengths and weaknesses. No, i repeat, no one individual represents Autistic people.

Damn being limited to a spectrum; Autists are a vast representation of humanity.

Having said THAT, people need to have choices whether i agree with them or not.....

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01 Jun 2012, 4:56 pm

I am a Pro-Life Right Wing Christian.


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01 Jun 2012, 8:13 pm

best of luck with your plan but autism speaks is to big an organization


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