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11 Dec 2012, 8:38 pm

Let the rage begin!


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12 Dec 2012, 12:31 am

Not sure if this counts cause I dont think its necessarily bad but Abed from the tv show Community. I get a little rage face when people say they are like Abed but laugh when I say I have way more in common with the character even though some of the people I know Know that I have AS. I know its a fictional character but its just ironic that I know this one person that goes out of their way to act like the character deliberately. I love the character but sheesh!



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12 Dec 2012, 12:59 am

Everything about the movie Rain Man, but mostly at the beginning of the movie.


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12 Dec 2012, 3:09 am

I would have agreed at one point, CockneyRebel, but since then I've come across autistic people who say they identify with Dustin Hoffman's performance.

I think the portrayals have been all over the map, but it's hard for me to pinpoint any I've seen recently that I would call bad. It is easier for me to pinpoint performances that I find difficult to relate to.

Also, when I first saw Rain Man, I became somewhat self-conscious about how I behaved and spoke.



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12 Dec 2012, 4:13 pm

when i was about 14 years old i was one day sitting in class and after the phone rang the teacher told me i was wanted in the main office building.i expected to be in trouble but to my suprise the social worker amy said were going to the movies.i was shocked and wonderd why.so we drove to a movie theatre in worcester,mass and saw the mattene of rain man.i liked the movie


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12 Dec 2012, 5:47 pm

It's a TV show, but I'm gonna mention it anyway:
Big Bang Theory.



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13 Dec 2012, 1:55 pm

Adam. You know, as a mt is actually very good, but it makes te main character look like an idiot. But he is not.

I hate the movie because its main hero says Aspie stereotypes like: "You know, I don´t understand the sense of humour", or "I can´t joke", or "I can´t..." (fill in any other disability that we show). Why can´t the screenwriters let him show where his problems are? Why must he sound like a ret*d? No Aspie with part of a brain talks like that!


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13 Dec 2012, 2:38 pm

I think maybe as a group we're a little too hung up on stereotypes.

Would we prefer no movies or TV shows ever even attempted to portray autism? Because it's kind of hard not to portray it with some stereotypical elements. And there is no possible way to portray any form of autism without pissing off a lot of people.

It's impossible for one simple reason. "If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism." It is utterly impossible to portray the entire spectrum with a single character.

Making a movie that would give a truly accurate idea of the spectrum would require dozens of different people, and would have to be very, very long, because it takes a long time of getting to know an autistic before one can really know that autistic, and every one of us is so different.

I'm fine with most of the portrayals because at least they're trying and not ignoring us. Stupid crap like the parents reactions on Parenthood though, are pretty shameful. I wouldn't mind that one if they had shown how shameful the parents reactions were.


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13 Dec 2012, 10:39 pm

MrXxx wrote:
I think maybe as a group we're a little too hung up on stereotypes.

Would we prefer no movies or TV shows ever even attempted to portray autism? Because it's kind of hard not to portray it with some stereotypical elements. And there is no possible way to portray any form of autism without pissing off a lot of people.

It's impossible for one simple reason. "If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism." It is utterly impossible to portray the entire spectrum with a single character.

Making a movie that would give a truly accurate idea of the spectrum would require dozens of different people, and would have to be very, very long, because it takes a long time of getting to know an autistic before one can really know that autistic, and every one of us is so different.

I'm fine with most of the portrayals because at least they're trying and not ignoring us. Stupid crap like the parents reactions on Parenthood though, are pretty shameful. I wouldn't mind that one if they had shown how shameful the parents reactions were.
What were the parent's reactions? and in what made them so shameful? Alot of people posting do not like the Rain Man. What was so bad about that movie? Or would you say that if I watch it I will easily see?



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14 Dec 2012, 12:08 am

MrXxx wrote:
I'm fine with most of the portrayals because at least they're trying and not ignoring us. Stupid crap like the parents reactions on Parenthood though, are pretty shameful. I wouldn't mind that one if they had shown how shameful the parents reactions were.


Also, I don't like it when people say "What this character did, no real autistic person or Aspie would do," especially when it's something I do.

I noticed that some of my speech patterns resemble Gary Bell's in Alphas. It was actually kind of eerie hearing myself talk while being aware that these speech patterns may be related to being autistic. If someone said "No autistic person ever talks like that," I'd be a bit annoyed.



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14 Dec 2012, 4:12 am

Most of them are fine.

Nothing wrong with the depiction of Rain Man (other than personal preference), for example.



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14 Dec 2012, 7:34 am

EtherealBallet wrote:
MrXxx wrote:
I think maybe as a group we're a little too hung up on stereotypes.

Would we prefer no movies or TV shows ever even attempted to portray autism? Because it's kind of hard not to portray it with some stereotypical elements. And there is no possible way to portray any form of autism without pissing off a lot of people.

It's impossible for one simple reason. "If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism." It is utterly impossible to portray the entire spectrum with a single character.

Making a movie that would give a truly accurate idea of the spectrum would require dozens of different people, and would have to be very, very long, because it takes a long time of getting to know an autistic before one can really know that autistic, and every one of us is so different.

I'm fine with most of the portrayals because at least they're trying and not ignoring us. Stupid crap like the parents reactions on Parenthood though, are pretty shameful. I wouldn't mind that one if they had shown how shameful the parents reactions were.
What were the parent's reactions? and in what made them so shameful? Alot of people posting do not like the Rain Man. What was so bad about that movie? Or would you say that if I watch it I will easily see?


I had no problem with Rain Man, and actually identified with Raymond. Though the character is obviously far more severely autistic than I, it's really not that unrealistic IMHO.

As for the Parenthood episode, I wasn't able to find the exact clip, this this one ought to give you an idea of what I'm talking about. You can judge for yourself.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/220299 (you will have to sit through a short ad before it plays.)

I don't think the real problem is with the portrayals of AS themselves. The problem is with people who see them thinking, "Oh, so that's what it looks like," because it's just not possible to see what it looks like from a single portrayal.


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14 Dec 2012, 7:40 pm

MrXxx wrote:
EtherealBallet wrote:
MrXxx wrote:
I think maybe as a group we're a little too hung up on stereotypes.

Would we prefer no movies or TV shows ever even attempted to portray autism? Because it's kind of hard not to portray it with some stereotypical elements. And there is no possible way to portray any form of autism without pissing off a lot of people.

It's impossible for one simple reason. "If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism." It is utterly impossible to portray the entire spectrum with a single character.

Making a movie that would give a truly accurate idea of the spectrum would require dozens of different people, and would have to be very, very long, because it takes a long time of getting to know an autistic before one can really know that autistic, and every one of us is so different.

I'm fine with most of the portrayals because at least they're trying and not ignoring us. Stupid crap like the parents reactions on Parenthood though, are pretty shameful. I wouldn't mind that one if they had shown how shameful the parents reactions were.
What were the parent's reactions? and in what made them so shameful? Alot of people posting do not like the Rain Man. What was so bad about that movie? Or would you say that if I watch it I will easily see?


I had no problem with Rain Man, and actually identified with Raymond. Though the character is obviously far more severely autistic than I, it's really not that unrealistic IMHO.

As for the Parenthood episode, I wasn't able to find the exact clip, this this one ought to give you an idea of what I'm talking about. You can judge for yourself.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/220299 (you will have to sit through a short ad before it plays.)

I don't think the real problem is with the portrayals of AS themselves. The problem is with people who see them thinking, "Oh, so that's what it looks like," because it's just not possible to see what it looks like from a single portrayal.
It will not allow me to watch the clip. I cannot think of any movie/TV characters with autism. I am however in a movie watching mood so I am going to watch Mozart and the Whale. That one has the two main characters with Aspergers. How do any of you think they are protrayed if you watched the movie. I have read books with Asperger's. The Asperger's Adventure books. Wild Orchid. I am planning to get the rest of the Wild Orchid related books. I can relate to the protagonist Taylor ) alot. I used to like flowers and orchids alot. I never had any interest in gerbils (the protagonist liked those things)



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14 Dec 2012, 8:01 pm

Never seen either of them.


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14 Dec 2012, 9:05 pm

Mozart and the Whale seemed fine to me. I enjoyed it.

There were elements that clashed with my expectations, but there were elements that made a lot of sense to me.



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14 Dec 2012, 10:57 pm

Verdandi wrote:
Mozart and the Whale seemed fine to me. I enjoyed it.

There were elements that clashed with my expectations, but there were elements that made a lot of sense to me.
What elements clashed and how so, what elements made sense and how so? I like hearing opinions.