Dissapointed in the lack of support for Autistic Supremacy

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diablo1714
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07 Dec 2012, 11:42 am

There are already threads here about Autistic Supremacy but I felt the need to make a new one to express my thoughts. I have HFA and I do not understand why there is not a general consensus among all autistics that we are, in fact, a separate, distinct, and superior race of people. I have lurked these forums for years and It is very distressing to me that autism is still seen in a negative light by some and called things such as a "disorder" or "disease". Over the recent years with more knowledge and data being released I would have thought that by now there would be a concrete realization that autism is representative of the natural evolutionary process that takes place in a species. We are not defective in anyway. Quite the opposite, actually. We are evolving. Autism is the beginning stage to evolving into a new species, separate from the current human race. I think nature realizes that the current human race has many problems and cannot survive into the future unless it adapts. And people being born autistic is natures solution to the problem, to create a new better adapted form of human that doesn't posses the negative qualities neurotypicals have. We are meant to replace neurotypicals with a better way of thinking. Things about autism such as "impaired social interaction and communication, restricted and repetitive behavior" are not disadvantages. Autistic people don't have social interaction problems...we just don't interact the same as neurotypicals. That's not a disorder or condition, we are just a new species entirely. Autistic people just live in a world dominated by the neurotypical state of mind, which is not how we are.

We should not let autism be put down and seen as a bad thing by the general public, which is what it seems like to me. If you search for autism on the internet you see mostly information about autism being a horrible disorder that needs to be cured, and that autistic people need help to live their lives. There is only a small bit of websites about autism being good and the advantages. That needs to change. The general public needs to know the real truth behind autism, not the info that is currently being put out in mass. I call on all autistics to stand proud and represent yourselves the right way, as a new and advanced species of human. From reading numerous threads on here I see that many autistic people themselves do not agree that autism is superior. I would like to ask why you think that. In my everyday life I see that the way neurotypicals think and behave is NOT good. If you think about it, neurotypical society is on the verge of complete collapse, almost extinction. Neurotypicals can barely survive without destroying each other. Their behavior in mass is destructive and counter productive to maintaining a stable society. Do you think a nation of autistic people would have the same problems that society has now? the answer is clearly no. So how is it not clear that autism is superior?



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07 Dec 2012, 12:30 pm

Another one of these, why does anyone have to be 'superior'? If you don't struggle with your autism at all great, but don't assume that applies to everyone. It is a neurological difference, and can be quite disabling for some people whether or not its simply because we live in a world based around NTs or issues they would have even if we didn't is unclear and considering not all the issues related to autism involve how we think or interact with NTs I would lean towards it being more than that. For instance sensory issues...those are bothersome with or without NTs.

Also how is it that we are nessisarily 'more' advanced or the start of some new human race? While some on the spectrum do have high intelligence and some might have a special skill that makes up for some of the disadvantages that is hardly the case with everyone on it. Also there are intelligent neurotypicals.

And finally, to say an autistic nation would not face any of the same problems is probably inaccurate. There would still be plenty of conflict and with the superiority attitude neurotypicals would probably end up being discriminated against which really does not show autistics being any 'better' than the worst of the neurotypicals.


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07 Dec 2012, 12:34 pm

diablo1714 wrote:
...superior race of people...


And right there is where you lost me. The moment anybody brings up superiority, they negate pretty much everything else they might have to say.

No one is superior. Superiority smacks of arrogance. So thanks, but no thanks.

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07 Dec 2012, 12:38 pm

Ditto word for word MrXxx's post.


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07 Dec 2012, 12:50 pm

MrXxx wrote:
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...superior race of people...


And right there is where you lost me. The moment anybody brings up superiority, they negate pretty much everything else they might have to say.

No one is superior. Superiority smacks of arrogance. So thanks, but no thanks.

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Maybe superior is a loaded word, how about autistic people are "more evolved" instead of superior. is that ok?



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07 Dec 2012, 1:01 pm

No.


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07 Dec 2012, 1:04 pm

autistics are a minority. We don't have the political or social currency to form a 'supremacy group'.

Its sort of pathetic in the same way as the 'new black panther' party advocating black supremacy in modern america.


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07 Dec 2012, 1:05 pm

Superiority among people is BS, Autistic or not. That's all I have to say about it.


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07 Dec 2012, 1:07 pm

When one group starts talking about "supremacy" over others I immediately think of Nazi Germany sending Jews to the gas chambers or the KKK lynching black people from trees. Not a word I ever want to see associated with autistic people.


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07 Dec 2012, 1:09 pm

diablo1714 wrote:
MrXxx wrote:
diablo1714 wrote:
...superior race of people...


And right there is where you lost me. The moment anybody brings up superiority, they negate pretty much everything else they might have to say.

No one is superior. Superiority smacks of arrogance. So thanks, but no thanks.

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Maybe superior is a loaded word, how about autistic people are "more evolved" instead of superior. is that ok?


I am not sure how we are more evolved, but I do prefer that terminology.....even so I don't agree we are more evoloved.


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07 Dec 2012, 1:19 pm

diablo1714 wrote:
MrXxx wrote:
diablo1714 wrote:
...superior race of people...


And right there is where you lost me. The moment anybody brings up superiority, they negate pretty much everything else they might have to say.

No one is superior. Superiority smacks of arrogance. So thanks, but no thanks.

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Maybe superior is a loaded word, how about autistic people are "more evolved" instead of superior. is that ok?


Sugar coat it all you want. At it's core, the ideal is still the same, and indigestible to my constitution.

Autism does not make me or anyone else any better, or worse, than anyone.


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07 Dec 2012, 1:25 pm

where would the neurotypicals be sent? " Aut-shwicz"


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07 Dec 2012, 1:33 pm

TallyMan wrote:
When one group starts talking about "supremacy" over others I immediately think of Nazi Germany sending Jews to the gas chambers or the KKK lynching black people from trees. Not a word I ever want to see associated with autistic people.


Holy s**t TallyMan, your new avatar looks intense. Your old one looked friendly and kind of goofy.

And you're absolutely right about this supremacist stuff. I'm kind of disappointed to see a post like this.



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07 Dec 2012, 1:45 pm

ShamelessGit wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
When one group starts talking about "supremacy" over others I immediately think of Nazi Germany sending Jews to the gas chambers or the KKK lynching black people from trees. Not a word I ever want to see associated with autistic people.


Holy sh** TallyMan, your new avatar looks intense. Your old one looked friendly and kind of goofy.


:lol: Same old TallyMan though, just a different avatar. This one is Seraph from the Matrix movies.

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And you're absolutely right about this supremacist stuff. I'm kind of disappointed to see a post like this.


Indeed; when people start talking about being genetically superior or more evolved than others it raises the dark ugly head of eugenics and the dehumanisation of others with catastrophic consequences not only for those considered inferior but for society as a whole.


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07 Dec 2012, 1:50 pm

i thought of a name for the head of this movement

Audolf Stimmler


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07 Dec 2012, 2:15 pm

I'd really appreciate seeing this thread, and other threads touting "Autistic Supremacy" ( :roll: ) locked and/or hidden.

We're neither inferior nor superior. We are humans; only this, and nothing more.