extradited asperger sufferer, Talha Ahsan and Babar Ahmad

Page 1 of 1 [ 11 posts ] 

ALADDIN_1978
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 28 Dec 2007
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 153
Location: U.K.

18 May 2013, 7:56 am

Talha Ahsan & Babar Ahmad

The trial of Babar Ahmad and Talha Ahsan has been moved from from October 2013 to March 2014.

I think, the moved is designed to get a plea bargain.

If Talha Ahsan gets sentence of 15 years, he will have served 7 years 8 months including 1 years 5 months in solitary confinement, Babar Ahmad will have served 9 years 7 months, Talha Ahsan can be repatriated to freedom.

What state will he be in ?



xenon13
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Dec 2008
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,638

18 May 2013, 9:20 am

As the people responsible for commanding the Latin American dirty wars are responsible for this no one can claim to be surprised...



Arran
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 375

20 May 2013, 5:32 pm

What I don't understand is where this terabyte of data comes from. To the best of my knowledge all the data the prosecutors have is on two floppy disks from a desk in Babar Ahmad's house. They contain secret military information leaked by Hassan Abu-Jihaad about locations of US Navy ships and details of his court trial.

Something strange is going on. The US authorities have had more than enough time to process the data they have. I was actually expecting the trials of Babar and Talha to be completed and the verdict reached before Theresa May had made her decision on whether or not to extradite Gary McKinnon. Have the lawyers commented yet?



ALADDIN_1978
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 28 Dec 2007
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 153
Location: U.K.

25 May 2013, 4:35 am

Bullying Babar and Talha to get a plea bargain.

If Talha gets a sentence of 15 years, served 7 years 8 months, repatriated to freedom.

I think they have to examine the mirror sited of azzam.com, translations to the different languages.



Arran
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 375

31 May 2013, 3:08 pm

This might not be the only delay before the trial. It is quite possible that the prosecutors will give him a choice of pleading guilty and taking a 10 year sentence or waiting indefinitely for a trial until the 'evidence' is prepared that he might not live long enough to ever see. It's a heads I win tails you lose situation.

I'm assuming that the contents of the azzam website did not break any of the British laws against terrorism or it could have been used as evidence to put him trial in the UK.



ALADDIN_1978
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 28 Dec 2007
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 153
Location: U.K.

01 Jun 2013, 9:44 am

Azzam was offline, the information was sent secretly to the USA government, not breaking any British laws.

It was online between 1997 and the days after 9/11.

Talha Ahsan, might not survive until any trial. I think, they will give him a sentence of around 15 years, he can be repatriated because he will served 7 years 8 months.



Arran
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 375

12 Jul 2013, 6:26 am

I'm awaiting the results of this Freedom of Information request

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... alha_ahsan



Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,749
Location: Stendec

12 Jul 2013, 9:50 am

ALADDIN_1978 wrote:
... If Talha Ahsan gets sentence of 15 years, he will have served 7 years 8 months including 1 years 5 months in solitary confinement, Babar Ahmad will have served 9 years 7 months, Talha Ahsan can be repatriated to freedom. What state will he be in ?

Perpetual Fear.



Arran
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 375

26 Jul 2013, 5:49 am

Does Fnord know something about this case that I don't know? How did you arrive at your guilty verdict unless you happen to be in possession of evidence that is not in the public domain?



Tequila
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 28,897
Location: Lancashire, UK

26 Jul 2013, 5:59 am

I'm sure he has had access to special evidence unknown to anyone else but a few powerful Israeli Zionists.

Go forth, O valiant defender of Islamic brethren, and expose this vile calumny!



Arran
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 375

26 Jul 2013, 11:49 am

Tequila wrote:
I'm sure he has had access to special evidence unknown to anyone else but a few powerful Israeli Zionists.


I don't want guesswork. I want facts.

I also want to make Tequila aware that there are fully paid up members of UKIP (who are not Muslims) who have campaigned for Talha Ahsan and support his repatriation to the UK. Extradition to the United States flies in the face of Habeas Corpus and the right to a fair trial in a British court.