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Neurodiversity is fine when you are talking about high-functioning autism. Low-functioning autism is nothing but a disease. Yes, high-functioning autism has advantages and benefits, but low-functioning autism or even mid-functioning autism is debilitating. Anyone with a heart or brain would support a cure for low or middle-functioning autism. The best thing would be a treatment that would change LFA into HFA, but Aspies For Freedom is against even that. I know this because I used to be an active user of that forum and I bought into all of their BS because I wanted to belong to something.

But feels > reals, right?

First post, eh? Welcome aboard.

Hola.

You'd be right at home in PPR (Politics, Philosophy, and Religion subforum located here on this website).

Wow, diving right into the deep end of the pool there!

However, it just so happens that I agree. I actually work with a company that helps take care of developmentally disabled adults, and that includes several people the autistic spectrum, both high and low functioning. Looking at them side by side, I can't help but feel that simply calling them both autistic is a huge false equivalence; It's like comparing an absentminded or forgetful person with someone who has dementia or alzheimer's. It's simply ridiculous to act as if the two are basically the same. They're not, and they should be handled differently because of that. There is a distinction to be made between different and disabled.

As for your post itself, you'll probably want to cut down on the defensiveness a little bit. Coming in immediately looking for a fight is pretty much a guaranteed way to get yourself into one. No need to insult everyone here right from the get go.

Thanks.



Yes, I would. I quite enjoy debate, even though I'm not very good at it.

I agree with you 100%.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
I'd say whatever form of ASD someone has, everyone should be able to find some assistance, not necessarily in assimilating, but in managing any of the symptoms that make their life difficult.
I personally don't believe a cure is possible, and even if it was, the cost of the change in personality could be so great as to cause some other type of mental dysfunction, especially in older ASDs.

So far as cure; I don't know if anyone will ever find a cure, or even a cause, so speculating about it is nothing more than that speculation.
We can all argue back and forth about whether we would want our ASD cured, or whether some are more "worthy" of having their problem eliminated, due to whatever reason, but it's all academic until or unless a cause which leads to a cure is found.
Discuss all you want, but it's only speculation.

I'm actually a very high-functioning aspie, and I would like to have the option for a cure. Though I don't know whether I would take it, I always like to have options, as well as the right to make my own decisions. In fact, aspies who would deny this option to others I find more insufferable than NT's who think autism is a form of mental retardation. It is more than a bit presumptuous for aspies who don't do a good job making their own decisions thinking they have the right to make mine, or anybody else's.

Of course, at this point in time, a cure is strictly academic, but the mindset that says some of us are self-appointed to make decisions for all of us is not academic; it is very real.

I do hope a cure, or at least something to mitigate some of autism's worst symptoms, is developed, and not just for the severely autistic.

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You are right, There are autistics out there who would greatly benefit with a better quality of life. I myself has Aspergers but my younger brother is much more severe than I am. I think that there should be a cure, however at the end it should be we who decide to use it or not.

i am not diseased! i am an excellent chef.

Appeal to emotion...



... in the same post in which you sarcastically imply that people who disagree with you are basing their arguments on feelings rather than facts.

Nicely done.

a bit stereotypical.i have no problem with people supporting a cure but this should be based on specific individuals not catagories.many people with aspergers support cure and some people who are lower functioning dont

The only problem I have with this is what is the line between mid-functioning and high-functioning, and the line between low-functioning and mid-functioning? I bring this up because I have AS and I could be considered low to mid-functioning for my lack or bad relationships but I could be high-functioning because of my interests in the sciences and I have a chemistry degree. This could be applied to most people on the spectrum, and I say most not all.

There are two types of aspies/auties:

Those who accept they are badly damaged, an those in denial of this. Anti cure people are in the later group.

There are more than two ways of looking at autism.

I'm not in denial of the fact that I am disabled but I don't think of mysef as "badly damaged".

I don't personally want a cure for myself but I'm not "anti-cure". I think that if a cure was available that each individual should be free to make their own decisions about taking it. Personally I think that treatments/therapies for specific problems is more realistic, and I'm all for those being available for any autistic person who wants and needs them and finds them useful.

Thank you animal crackers! you said what I was trying to figure out how to say without being a jerk