israel's "autism law" amd its harmfull impacts

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well dou to the fact that both our prime minister and banking minister are curebies israel had past a new hatefull law that violates the UN treaty about "disability rights", israel is best known for its oppressive and barbaric laws but this is just to much, it will only benefits low Functioning
individuals and their parents,the law has nothing helpfull to us and is largely hated by ACI (israeli autistic community) and fellow self advocacy organisations who will do our best efforts to make this hatefull law dissapear,
i will like to hear what you think about it

Can you please provide a link to information on this law? Thanks

what is the law?

well i will try to find an none hebrew article who is not filled with israeli fascist propaganda, but for now:


the new law is that there a Committee of curebies who are the one who decide what an autistic person is need and not the person himself, it is problematic because people like me who are completely independed will not get any support, the law was proposed by yair lapid the israeli banking minister and ALUT who are an hatemongering organisation who dosent want people like me to be considered autistics.


the committee are deciding on almost every aspect of life in lower functionings and somtimes completly reject high functioning autistics any support.


if anyone has a similar problem, post it it is important

Sounds like you would be better off without help from them. Look, its sad but EVERYONE IS BROKE. Your govt, my govt, the folks in Europe. Your govt is dumping money left and right into the national terror of Iran... And with some attitudes on the Arabic end and the mess in Syria, I can not say I would be doing differently.

If you are functioning independently, you are on your own. With all the stigma issues and everything we JUAT DONT KNOW about higher functioning folks, personally, I would not have it any other way.

Its a shame that they get to dictate your life if you do fall under their auspices. One more reason NOT to expand aid to cover those of us who can, basically, take care of ourselves.

Google translate while far from perfect is a starting point.

It's not helpful to write how hateful it is without actually telling us why it is so disliked, what the law is and why it's problematic from an unbiased perspective.

There is a cached article on the left-wing Haaretz website, but it is still very unclear why it's disliked.

tl;dr: No-one knows what you're on about.

Judging from your avatar, you probably aren't positively disposed to the PM anyways. Google for English news in Israel yields nothing (something tells me it would have popped up in Ynetnews or JPost).

Agreed Tequila, tl;dr.

Benefiting low functioning people and their parents is good, they are the ones requiring the most support for the basics.
E.g. right now my son is in pain. But he cannot speak, he cannot type, he has not yet learnt to point. These are the sort of practical life issues faced by him and us.
At least you can tell someone about it and get treatment. I appreciate you may have other challenges but they are probably of a different order of difficulty, at least thats from my perspective.

Interesting... It is a dream of mine to settle permanently in Israel in the future (won't be easy cause I'm not Jewish and have no Jewish partner or roots... but dreams exist to be chased) and during my research I found out Yair Lapid actually has an autistic child himself. For sure he is not going to propagand anti-autism laws. Also, his party is seen as an upcoming force, he has nothing to do with the Likud party of Netanyahu.

Maybe some unbiased source should be quoted.

PS: I am communist myself, political believes have little to do with what the opening poster is saying. I do sense some anti-Israeli sentiments but those exist in any political directions.

my niece moved to haifa a few years ago and she likes it.she is half jewish her kids will have to enroll in military service at age 18 even if she moves back to the united states.if they move back to the US and dont return for military service they will have a interpol warrant on them for treason against Yisrael but its not likely extrititably

The mandatory 3 years in the Tzahal isn't that bad.

well,about yair lapid,why do you think he had proposed the "autism law",he is a curebie and he is the same as auti$m speak$.

and about israel,it is a sh@#t hole,this country is a capitalist and imperialist state who is fillied with a strange combination of hypocricity and openly racism agains every one,as a marxist and left wing supporter israel is a hell to me,i am planing to make the IDF think i am insane and skip the army service and then go study abroad,i am hopping to start a new life in a western country.

ps: it is nice to meet a fellow communist,my friend

Good luck with the new life in a Western country.

I have to recommend you give Canada a shot, as Israel is pretty much the favored child of the United States and I cannot imagine you would care much of the state of life, or autism, in these lovely United States.

I wish you luck with Communism, too. It didn't work the first time, and it's my considered opinion that it must have been concieved by Aspies. It works great on paper; in practice, not so much. It's a wonderful idea, but innocently fails to take into account the human propensity for corruption and self-service.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Communism only works in small collectivist societies where the separation between the wealthiest individual and the poorest one, and between the leadership and the lowest schlep on the totem pole, isn't much. Places where everyone knows everyone else, everyone sees everything else, and every aspect of everyone's life is transparent.

But-- Prove me wrong. PLEASE prove me wrong. Get out there and build a society where it actually works. Make my lifetime.

This is good, as it lessens the likelihood that the system will be abused and defrauded by fakers.


That seems fair, since by definition an independent person is someone who doesn't need support.

Post the link to the article. I will translate its contents.

Or do you expect the rest of us to simply trust you as to what it says?

Yes, but keep in mind you stated she is half jewish. You can use the law of return (making "aliyah") allowing you to settle in Israel and get Israeli citizenship on the spot, only if
a) you are Jewish
b) you have a Jewish grandparent or parent (mother or father, doesn't matter even if the Halacha would not consider a jewish father and non-jewish mother sufficient, but the law is different from religious restrictions)
c) if you have an Israeli partner (or Jewish partner who makes aliyah and you go with him/her with a partner visum)

In all other cases, there are very few options:
a) you need to have a very rare degree and skill that is hard to find in Israel itself
b) you have to be applicable for one of the few exceptional professions in which the country needs extra staff (a list that changes regularly)
c) you need to be a very skilled athlete
d) you found a business in Israel
e) you are a diplomat

I am unsure if there is any back door to reside in Israel with an income from abroad, which would mean you don't need a working permit. But even the residence permit would be problematic to get if no Jewish roots or partner.

I once asked if artistic visa exists, but ... sadly, no.

So the move to Israel is not easy for a non-jew. You'd need to marry an Israeli or Jew, or convert (but if you choose the latter option, you are expected to live a religious life, more religious than those born in Israel of whom almost half are de facto atheist)





I dislike Israeli politics, Netanyahu and Likud. It's the country and it's people that fascinate and attract me to large extent. I can sing the Hatikva and have the Israeli flag hanging on the wall in my flat

But politically, a change is badly needed. I also wonder when the rest of the world (especially USA) will stop the "don't do that!" warnings each time new settlements are built in occupied territories, but it seems that after the broadcasted speech the western rulers make a phone call to Netanyahu saying "it's OK, camera's are off. Just build wherever you want, what we said on TV wasn't intended serious" ...

PS: communism has worked out relatively well in Cuba. Let's face it: USA went bankrupt earlier than Cuba ... In Cuba people have free housing, healthcare, education, university, and they even send out doctors worldwide as their healthcare is so advanced. There are severe problems with some aspects of Cuban life, but a lot of them are a consequence of the embargo. Given the circumstances, they're doing quite well.

And granted, true communism has never worked yet, but capitalism has proved it is not the solution neither. In other words: I strongly believe we need to give the far left wing a new chance and I believe it has more chances of succeeding the next time than capitalism has. An interesting book written by a Korean professor specialised in economy and market systems, "23 things they didn't tell you about capitalism", is interesting reading as for why a free market does not work.