extraided asperger sufferer, Talha Ahsan in solitary

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Aspergers Sufferer Talha Ahsan pleads guiltyExtradited Aspergers Sufferer pleads guilty

He is pleading guilty to go home, accept better conditions, not gamble the risk of spending the rest of his life in solitary confinement.

He's done it, he knows he's done it, everyone else knows he's done it.

Hope the bearded loon rots.

Because he's guilty - it seems that the known evidence and testimony against him would overwhelm any defense he or his legal team could muster.


It's kind of hard to claim innocence when the other conspirators have already denounced you and are set to testify against you.


As has been said already: Let Him Rot!

Is he really guilty or was it an act of expediency because under the dysfunctional American system of justice a fair trial is not a right. Christopher Tappin also pleaded guilty on pragmatic grounds, rather than because he actually was guilty, in order to receive a 3 year long sentence rather than risk a 30 year sentence from a full trial.

The leader of UKIP Nigel Farage has condemned America’s "abhorrent" plea bargain system which he claims has forced close friend Christopher Tappin to plead guilty to a crime he did not commit. He said that Christopher Tappin had "no other realistic choice" than to enter into a plea bargain with US authorities.

http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/ukip_s_n ... _1_1677203

The Natwest Three were alleged to have committed 7 counts of wire fraud but decided to plead guilty to one instance rather than risk facing 35 years in jail.

Unfortunately few British people are aware of the plea bargaining system and the way the British media has reported the Babar Ahmad and Talha Ahsan case gives the impression that they are genuinely guilty.

Contraversial Extradition Cases

Apart from Babar Ahmad, Talha Ahsan, Richard O'Dwyer and Gary Mckinnon would have had to undergo a plea bargaining system.

Other cases of extradited Britons include the Natwest 3 (Giles Darby, Gary Mulgrew and David Bermingham), Christopher Tappin, Ian Norris, Jeremy Crook. Dave McIntyre may be extradited.

All I know he has done is written for a website concerned about Muslims' position in some countries, and which had ceased to exist 4 years before he was arrested. He had never been to America, whose entire claim to jurisdiction comes from the website's host company chancing to have a server located there. He could have been tried in Britain without it raising any of the same issues over the supermax jail system. His campaigners actually asked for that, not for just dropping the case.

Big, fat, hairy deal!

No one is flaying the flesh from his back with a whip, chopping off his hands with a scimitar, or sawing his head off in front of a camera for his beliefs ...

Nice to see what side of the fence you're on.

Hooray for Islamic jihad.

I'm 99.9% certain that the Azzam website was legal under British law during the years it was operating. If it wasn't, then Babar Ahmad would have been prosecuted either back then or under Karl Watkin's private prosecution in 2012.

This is a complex legal case where Americans are trying to thrust their own laws onto Britain and British people and also use a piece of legislation (the 2003 Extradition Act) retroactively because the Azzam website was shut down before the law came into force. The same also applies for the hacking carried out by Gary McKinnon which at the time it took place he could only have been prosecuted in Britain under the Computer Misuse Act. Personally, I believe both cases are a dishonest abuse of the 2003 Extradition Act.

The summary of the matter appear to be that British internet users have to comply with both British law and American law just in case some data is stored or processed on computer facilities in the US.

Your opinion, obviously, is irrelevant to the case.

Opinions are immaterial, anyway.

Have you any source that shows him wanting those things done to anyone?
Yes, anyone imprisoned by systems that do those things is more urgently deserving of our campaigning support, and they likely won't get it from our politicans if they are imprisoned by a country that sells us oil.

I can't quote with 100% certainty that the Azzam website was legal under British law as I'm not a lawyer, but if contents of it violated any British laws against terrorism and soliciting murder then please provide a convincing explanation as to why Babar Ahmad wasn't arrested and prosecuted in Britain. This is why I mentioned that it is a complex legal case where a British citizen who has never visited the US is being tried under American law for an activity that appears to be legal in Britain.

Why are you so interested in the case anyway?

Where did you hear this phrase? The only other person I've ever heard say it is this one friend of mine.

Central lower Michigan ... along with "cripes" and "criminy", it was a common expression in the 1960s.

I wonder where she heard it then. I thought she made it up and I was going to ask you if you ever heard the word "kag". It was something I think was made up at my school and was used when somebody tripped or fell or did something clumsy. I've heard others use it though too, and never got a chance to ask where they heard it.

A condensed summary of what happened at the plea bargain followed by a commentary here

http://www.aspergersupport.org.uk/campa ... hsan7.html