United Autistic Front: Manifesto

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AIM
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14 May 2016, 12:58 pm

This is a work in progress, feel free to scrutinise any aspect of it.
I think that we should set up an autistic organisation dedicated to the establishment of an autonomous autistic community.

Short Version:
Get as many autistics together united in a single organisation, eventually set up a fund that these autistics can donate to. Take 5-10% of the fittest and strongest autistics and use the money to finance military training for them. Identify a nation undergoing civil war, launch an invasion, annex weakly defended territory and establish our own state. Move the remaining autistics in and take over the infrastructure.

The specifics of the state e.g. laws and economic system can be decided by voting.

I am going to pre-empt some of the counter arguments a few of you will no doubt have:

I don't want to join because x,y,z!! !! - Then don't, I would only expect people who like the idea to support it.

I want to be integrated into neurotypical society, not be around aspies/autistics all day!! ! - I want to be able to teleport. Just because you want something doesn't mean you can have it. The differences between neurotypicals and autistics leave us in juxtaposition against one another, if they didn't - we probably wouldn't be on this site. Us being ourselves makes them feel awkward and uncomfortable, that is the truth and you know it. They are under no obligation to integrate us, why should they care? If you think they do then you are suffering from Stockholm syndrome. We don't need them.

Using force is wrong!
What is the alternative? Colonisation (European jew style) - Not enough of us.
Purchasing the land of a corrupt government? - Not going to happen, they wouldn't be able to justify it to their electorate.
Constructing artificial islands? (Chinese style) - Too expensive.

Who gives a damn? We shouldn't constrain ourselves with a sense of morality designed by neurotypicals for neurotypicals, our needs are different and this should be reflected by our own sense of morality.

It is us vs them, it always has been and always will be.

It wouldn't work because we argue so much amongst ourselves! We can't possibly know until we try. Maybe you are right (there are certainly challenges) but I don't see this being a reason not to attempt it. We tend to be loyal, honest and caring - far more so than most neurotypicals. These three qualities along with the belief that the state should exist should see us through.

Now, who wants to help me?

GGPViper
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14 May 2016, 5:36 pm

AIM wrote:

What is the alternative? Colonisation (European jew style) - Not enough of us.

Exactly what do you mean by this statement?

Aristophanes
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14 May 2016, 6:45 pm

Nice allusion to Russell Means and the American Indian Movement with your name/pic, but no, just no on the concept you're pushing.

AIM
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14 May 2016, 7:24 pm

Aristophanes wrote:

Nice allusion to Russell Means and the American Indian Movement with your name/pic,

AIM = Adam Ian McKenna - My name. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Aristophanes wrote:

but no, just no on the concept you're pushing.

Any reasons? Feedback?

AIM
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14 May 2016, 7:27 pm

GGPViper wrote:

AIM wrote:

What is the alternative? Colonisation (European jew style) - Not enough of us.

Exactly what do you mean by this statement?

Colonising a country through mass emigration to take over the infrastructure wouldn't work because there are not enough of us. That is the point I am trying to make.

I am not a neurotypical so attempting to read into the emotional implication (if that is what you are doing, apologies if you are not) is a waste of time as there is none.

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14 May 2016, 7:49 pm

AIM wrote:

Aristophanes wrote:

Nice allusion to Russell Means and the American Indian Movement with your name/pic,

AIM = Adam Ian McKenna - My name. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Aristophanes wrote:

but no, just no on the concept you're pushing.

Any reasons? Feedback?

Look up the AIM, you're pushing things they pushed back in the 60's that's why it's easy to make the leap, especially with the ponytailed avatar that looks an awful lot like Russell Means, one of the main proponents of AIM.

As for feedback, autistics are less than 1% of the population. There just aren't the numbers, and power is all based on numbers. What you'd end up doing is gathering all the autistics in one place which merely makes it easier for the powers that be to eliminate us. Imagine if all the "undesireables" of WWII (jews, gypsies, and the like) gathered in Berlin to protest-- the Nazis would have been overjoyed since it would have cut out all the work to round them up, which is like 90% of the German labor used specifically for the holocaust.

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15 May 2016, 12:24 am

Nope, Too many NT's I have met that are great people including family that I would not want to seperate from.

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AIM
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15 May 2016, 9:28 am

Aristophanes wrote:

AIM wrote:

Aristophanes wrote:

Nice allusion to Russell Means and the American Indian Movement with your name/pic,

AIM = Adam Ian McKenna - My name. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Aristophanes wrote:

but no, just no on the concept you're pushing.

Any reasons? Feedback?

Aristophanes wrote:

especially with the ponytailed avatar that looks an awful lot like Russell Means, one of the main proponents of AIM.

That avatar is a picture of Stannis Baratheon - a character from Game of Thrones lol. There is no ponytail.

Aristophanes wrote:

As for feedback, autistics are less than 1% of the population. There just aren't the numbers, and power is all based on numbers.

Rates of autism diagnosis are increasing perhaps due to increased awareness of the disorder but even if you are correct (which you are not) and the figure is 1% that is still a huge amount.
To put it into perspective
1% of the UK's population is 650,000
1% of the US's population is around 3.4 million
Even 1% of this figure is enough to build an autonomous community.

Aristophanes wrote:

What you'd end up doing is gathering all the autistics in one place which merely makes it easier for the powers that be to eliminate us.

Take off your tinfoil hat. The powers at be are not trying to eliminate us, a few fringe lunatics are trying to eliminate us and any organised unit like the one I propose would be able to fight them off easily. The powers at be don't care about autistics. There is a difference.

Aristophanes wrote:

Imagine if all the "undesireables" of WWII (jews, gypsies, and the like) gathered in Berlin to protest-- the Nazis would have been overjoyed since it would have cut out all the work to round them up, which is like 90% of the German labor used specifically for the holocaust.

Completely different situation, not a fair comparison. Who is going to enslave or kill us?

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15 May 2016, 10:19 am

We don't advocate violence on this forum.

Topic locked.

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