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AgusCahyo
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10 Sep 2016, 1:06 am

A rose is a rose no matter what it is called - western poem
A government is bandit that won. - chinese proverb

Which one you think is right?

The first one is autistic. Something is something no matter what it is called and no matter what people call it. What people call something doesn't matter.

Well, is government different than bandit? When did the last time you confess your income to a bandit? Reality is that beliefs matter.

What's the difference between marriage and prostitution? A scientist, that don't give f**k about political correctness will say marriage is prostitution where government is the pimp. It's not. Why? Because we don't call it that way.



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10 Sep 2016, 1:35 am

AgusCahyo wrote:
Well, is government different than bandit?

Do we get to elect our bandits?
Do bandits use the funds they collect to pay for roads, schools, hospitals, emergency services, etc.?

I guess those would be some of the differences between a government and a bandit.

AgusCahyo wrote:
What's the difference between marriage and prostitution?

The prostitute leaves.
Oh, sorry, I thought you were asking for the punchline to an old joke.

I guess it comes down to: can you have sexless prostitution?
If you put a prostitute down as your emergency contact, will they actually respond when something happens to you and they're called?
Does a prostitute automatically get power of attorney over your affairs if you are incapacitated?

I guess those would be some of the differences between marriage and prostitution.

I would suggest that the difference is between nouns and verbs.

A rose is a noun. It's defined by what it is. It's an object which doesn't change if you call it something else.

By contrast, a government and a bandit are defined by what they do. They are verbs. A government governs, a bandit steals. If either stop doing what they're doing, they cease being what they were. If they exchange behaviors, each can become the other.

Nouns have a permanence, verbs are transitory.

I don't know how any of this relates to autism. I certainly don't think the western poem is any more (or less) autistic than the Chinese proverb.



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20 Sep 2016, 12:48 pm

Thank you for imposing an odd and wildly divergent/unrelated binary choice.

Neither.


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20 Sep 2016, 1:09 pm

Don't both of them mean pretty much the same thing?
Goverment also wants your money and they will make your life miserable if you don't. It might not be a bandit per se but a mafia member that takes your money for making sure your house still stays the next day... Think about it. :lol:
Government won't kill you - but they might put you in jail if you don't pay their part and if you own a business they won't let you go untill they get their money from it. They also will visit you and claim their share if you win a lottery.
And mafia also invests in some stuff.

...

Just kidding.



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21 Sep 2016, 6:53 am

I don't see that those two "choices" are mutually exclusive, it's perfectly possible to agree with both or with neither.


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