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17 May 2018, 12:27 am

Hans Asperger work went beyoud Autism and long past WWII. While understandably most of the attention of Herwig Czech’s paper “Hans Asperger, National Socialism, and “race hygiene” in Nazi-era Vienna” has focused on his complicity in the murder of the disabled there is this brief entry that is unfortunatly relevant with the revelation the Parkland shooter is autistic

“A typical example example of his approach is a 1952 paper on the “Psychopathology of Young Criminals,” in which he named three groups of children with constitutional or organic defects as particularly prone to committing crimes: the so-called “unstable” (or “disorganized”) type, those with encephalitis-induced brain damage, and the “autistic, with disturbed instincts, especially those with normal or above-average intelligence” ( of children with constitutional or organic defects as particularly prone to committing crimes: the so-called “unstable” (or “disorganized”) type, those with encephalitis-induced brain damage, and the “autistic, with disturbed instincts, especially those with normal or above-average intelligence

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He was describing people with the syndrome that would be named after him as prone to criminalty.


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17 May 2018, 1:41 am

Perhaps it is not too late, APOM, for you and I to take up a life of crime? I am speaking ironically of course..



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18 May 2018, 1:28 pm

are you sure the parkland shooter is autistic


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20 May 2018, 1:51 am

vermontsavant wrote:
are you sure the parkland shooter is autistic

This. I am starting to disbelieve these claims.

I am now feeling that perhaps they do it specifically to bring hate towards autism. I suspect people like the parkland shooter might be an extremist, and might tell extremist groups about how they will falsely claim to have autism to make themselves a "martyr". As the acceptance of a link between murder and autism will further the goals of those who support eugenics.

Similarly, I believe that Hans Asperger is a Nazi who continued to believe after the end of WW2. I believe his studies were at least in part politically motivated for the purpose of labeling a group of people as defective and furthermore referring some to be euthanized.


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20 May 2018, 2:01 am

SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
are you sure the parkland shooter is autistic

This. I am starting to disbelieve these claims.

I am now feeling that perhaps they do it specifically to bring hate towards autism. I suspect people like the parkland shooter might be an extremist, and might tell extremist groups about how they will falsely claim to have autism to make themselves a "martyr". As the acceptance of a link between murder and autism will further the goals of those who support eugenics.

Several family members said he was autistic

SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:
Similarly, I believe that Hans Asperger is a Nazi who continued to believe after the end of WW2. I believe his studies were at least in part politically motivated for the purpose of labeling a group of people as defective and furthermore referring some to be euthanized.

The main thesis of the new book out by the historian Edith Scheffer talked about in the other thread in this section is that Nazi psychiatry was just about that and that Hans Asperger might not have been a fanatic but was was complicit in and supported a lot of these beliefs either because he believed in them or for career reasons.


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21 May 2018, 8:33 pm

SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
are you sure the parkland shooter is autistic

This. I am starting to disbelieve these claims.

I am now feeling that perhaps they do it specifically to bring hate towards autism. I suspect people like the parkland shooter might be an extremist, and might tell extremist groups about how they will falsely claim to have autism to make themselves a "martyr". As the acceptance of a link between murder and autism will further the goals of those who support eugenics.

Similarly, I believe that Hans Asperger is a Nazi who continued to believe after the end of WW2. I believe his studies were at least in part politically motivated for the purpose of labeling a group of people as defective and furthermore referring some to be euthanized.


I personally believe the Parkland shooter being autistic claim was correct, but I also agree that people might be on to something to bring hate to different groups in society. This is what the media has done for a long time.