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25 Aug 2018, 12:35 pm

As an aspie, I am going to say to other aspies online such as Reddit and WrongPlanet. You are not superior to no one. Stop putting Aspergers on a pedestal. There is no autistic master race. We are not X-men, we may be neurological mutants, but its too pretentious to compare use to X-men.

Some aspies, yellow press and sensational websites offer a unrealistic representation of Asperger's syndrome. Like if aspies didn't exist we would still be stuck in Stone Age or sensational headlines such as this
"Is Aspergers The Next Stage in Human Evolution?". Such headlines make me cringe.

Acknowledge and value your strengths aspies, but don't develop a false self-image of superiority.

What pretentious aspies say is that aspies are better than neurotypicals. You're not embarrassing yourself, but also other aspies who don't wish to be associated with your thinking.

If we are so better then why do many of us fail miserably in social relationships. Why are we more likely to be suicidal and depressed than neurotypicals? Why do many of us suffer from low self-esteem if we are "superior"?

If we are socially disadvantaged and many of us are clueless how to make friends how can you say we are superior to neurotypicals. Despite all of the "God-given" gifts and abilities or skills that these aspies claim to have, I cannot consider aspies superior to neurotypicals. Why? Because interaction and communication is a very important part of human life in which many aspies struggle with.

You only talk about the positives of Asperger syndrome while completely ignoring the difficult reality that many aspies have to face. Aspies, don't hold delusional beliefs. You are neither inferior nor superior to neurotypicals.


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25 Aug 2018, 6:44 pm

We are very disadvantaged in an NT world so for some it becomes a comforting to think all our problems are the result of stupid NT's holding us brilliant Aspie/HFA types back. If they would only recognize our genius we would be moving the world forward while they chit chatted. Part of the problem is this social media era allows people to be in the own bubble which is enticing because getting out in the world is especially difficult for us. Those of us from the analog era were forced to get out and socialize. It sure was uncomfortable and awkward but we had to meet a lot of different people. From that, we found out there are plenty of interesting NT people with a passion for certain subjects who do not care about social hierarchy and gossip AND WHO ARE SMARTER THEN OURSELVES.

Aspie supremacy is doing the exact bad things unto others as was done to us. It is hypocritical to complain how the world thinks we are ret*ds then in the next sentence basically say the same thing about NT's.

Because Aspie supremacists are quite vocal to many people Aspergers/HFA is not real autism so Aspies not only do not need supports but should be held in contempt as pretentious attention seekers. Also because Aspie supremacists are vocal about it Aspie supremacism and elitism is the defining feature of the nuerodiversity movement for many autistics. Because their autistic life does not resemble that of a superior race the neurodiversity movement is the enemy. Thus they do not get the benefits from what the movement actually is a counter to the idea that autism is a curse that is going to prevent them from ever having sex or a job.


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30 Aug 2018, 10:38 pm

This destructive way of thinking isn't new. There are a few people in every oppressed group who hold this belief. In the Civil Rights movement it was Malcolm X. In feminism it is the feminazis. And in the neurodiversity movement it is aspie supremacists. It is due to the human response to being oppressed of wanting "revenge" against the oppressors and assuming that all of them are automatically evil, when in reality the traditionally disadvantaged group is not any better or worse than the traditionally advantaged group.


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05 Nov 2018, 11:34 am

*shrugs* If you think you're superior, prove it. But I don't think a superior group of people would have such high unemployment rates. On the other hand, it's not *that* uncommon for very intelligent people to be working menial jobs, so...



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06 Nov 2018, 1:04 pm

Wikipedia 'Evolution' wrote:
Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. These characteristics are the expressions of genes that are passed on from parent to offspring during reproduction.

Do these autism supremacists make lots of babies then, I wonder? :wink:


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08 Nov 2018, 5:07 pm

As far as I can tell, the most prominent promoter of the idea of Asperger's syndrome as "the next stage of human evolution" is Tony Attwood -- who is, presumably at least, NOT an autistic person himself, but is a psychotherapist who historically played a significant role in putting AS on the map as a diagnostic category.

See: Is Asperger's syndrome the next stage of human evolution?: Tony Attwood | ABC News Australia (YouTube).

I'm going to watch this video before commenting further, and I would suggest that others do likewise.


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08 Nov 2018, 11:14 pm

Yeah I've noticed that Attwood has said this kind of thing before.

I'll say that Asperger's (a genetic condition) will not be the next stage of human evolution, for the simple reason that the next stage of human evolution will be postbiological (technological and memetic), not biological (genetic).


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09 Nov 2018, 8:18 pm

We will just make better weapons than you.


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09 Nov 2018, 8:25 pm

liminal wrote:
Yeah I've noticed that Attwood has said this kind of thing before.

I'll say that Asperger's (a genetic condition) will not be the next stage of human evolution, for the simple reason that the next stage of human evolution will be postbiological (technological and memetic), not biological (genetic).


Actually, there is no next "stage" of evolution at all. Evolution is ongoing. However, some autistic traits can help innovation. Compared to other animals, humans as a whole are a bit autistic. I doubt we will ever know the full truth of our selves though. This time of modernity is pretty fluky. I doubt we will have computers for very long.