Simon Baron Cohen Controversies 101

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The cognitive neuroscientist, Sir Simon Philip Baron-Cohen was born on August 15, 1958. He’s currently the Professor of Developmental Psychopathology at the University of Cambridge (UK) in the Department of Experimental Psychology and Psychiatry. In fact, he’s one of the best-known autism researchers, but also one of the most controversial, due to his wacky ideas, as he calls them.

“Lone Wolf of Autism Research,” “Creative Rebel,” “Public Science Hero,” and “Red Rag for Feminists.” This specialist has been called many things. However, although he may be considered rather daring, he keeps trying to provide significant data for understanding the autistic spectrum.
mindblindness and hypermasculinization
Autistic people often see a lot, but recognize little. Indeed, many of them experience great difficulties in classifying what they see in a spatial/temporal/social context. In the mid-1980s, Baron-Cohen tried to explain this phenomenon with his theory of “mind-blindness.”

Baron-Cohen claims that, unlike typically developed people, those diagnosed as autistic have trouble reading the wishes and intentions of others from their facial expressions and gestures.

Baron-Cohen, Alan M. Leslie, and Uta Frith recruited 61 four-year-old children, 14 of whom had autism, 20 had Down’s syndrome, and 27 were clinically unimpaired. The researchers wanted to try and obtain evidence to support their hypothesis. They showed the little ones a scenario involving two dolls. One of the dolls placed a marble in her basket and left the scene.

While the doll was absent, the second doll moved the marble into its own basket. The researchers then asked the children where the first doll would look for its marble when it returned. Typically developing toddlers and those with Down’s syndrome realize that the first doll would be unaware of what happened in their absence. On the other hand, many of the children with autism affirmed that the first doll would go to look for the marble in the basket of the second doll.

Brain scan analysis
A whole series of researchers worldwide scanned the brains of healthy and autistic test subjects. They tested them for matching angry and friendly looks with corresponding emotions, identifying voices of acquaintances, and describing the intentions of certain characters in stories.

They discovered that autistic individuals often exhibit less activity in brain regions responsible for processing emotions and language, recognizing faces, or recalling memories. Indeed, the connections between these areas appear to be weaker in autism sufferers. Instead, there’s often more activity in the region where the objects are processed.

Extreme Mail Brain Theory
In 2003, Baron-Cohen put forth the controversial thesis that autism is an extreme variant of the male brain. He stated that “Autism is particularly prevalent among boys and men, but is it that boys are more interested in systems? We tested this with newborns. On their first day of life, we showed them a human face and a mobile and then measured how long they each stared. We found that more girls looked at the face longer and more boys looked at the mobile longer. This suggests that something related to ‘masculinity’ is also related to autism and an interest in systems”.

That ‘something’, Baron-Cohen surmises, is the hormone testosterone. This is due to the fact that male fetuses produce twice as much testosterone as women in the womb. Moreover, prenatal testosterone influences brain development.

When measuring the testosterone level in women who were due to undergo amniocentesis and had their children examined after birth, the higher the prenatal testosterone level, the more autistic traits the children exhibited and the more interested they were in systems.

However, many in the autism field are skeptical of his hypothesis. “It is not clear if the theory predicts that fetal testosterone is sufficient to cause autism or if fetal testosterone levels interact with other markers of genetic vulnerability,” says David Skuse, Professor of Brain and Behavioral sciences at University College London (UK).

Skuse also adds that most of the analyzes conducted by Baron-Cohen’s group are based on mothers’ perceptions of their children’s behavior and not on objective measures.

Autism and synesthesia
Synesthesia is another area of ​​exploration with which Baron-Cohen is linked. Synesthesia is a neurological condition in which a sensation in one modality triggers a perception in another. He and his colleagues have been the first to use neuroimaging to prove the existence of synesthesia. Baron-Cohen also holds the position of co-editor-in-chief of the journal Molecular Autism.

The idea of ​​autism
Baron-Cohen is quick to dismiss the idea that autism is a mental illness. In fact, he claims it’s both a disability and a difference.

Disability is related to social functioning and adaptation to change. According to this specialist, the autistic child processes information in an intelligent, albeit different way, with attention to detail and the ability to detect patterns. In effect, he likens the way autism looks today to the way being left-handed once looked.

Baron-Cohen disagrees that autism and Asperger’s syndrome should be merged under the same diagnosis. Indeed, he defends that the latter should continue as a separate diagnostic entity. He doesn’t believe there are enough studies comparing Asperger syndrome with other types of autism to say there’s no difference between the two.

Current Studies
This scientist didn’t miss the opportunity to win over Psychology Today readers by getting them to be subjects of an online study. In fact, he asked parents with university degrees to visit the http://www.cambridgepsychology.com website and enter some simple questions about their child’s development.

Then, by compiling enough data, he examined whether there was an association between the parents’ fields of study and the probability of having a child with autism. He suspected that graduates in systems and the inanimate world, such as mathematics, engineering, or computer science, would be at a higher risk than others for autism.

The dramatic increase in autism spectrum diagnoses like autism and Asperger syndrome in children could also be explained by the fact that more women are now working in technical and mathematical professions and finding similar partners in the workplace.

I do agree with him that Autism is both a difference and a disability. He has been quite public about saying autism is not purely a curse. He started saying that over a decade ago when that needed to be said.

I don't have a problem with "autism".
I have a problem with the executive dysfunction that often accompanies it.
80% of those on the spectrum have it, so I have read.

If 80 percent of Autistics have Executive dysfunction that would make it an Autism trait.
I do think that Executive Dysfunctions will be added as an autism trait in the next DSM manual like sensory sensitivities were added to the last one.

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The same can be true with poor self monitoring.
It's not just planning and attention span.

The plate is just too small to fit even some vital functions sometimes.

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I understand what you meant by that.

Though I cannot speak for others...
I had experienced a state to possess a larger plate to fit all said vital functions.
And saw the contrast and difference of having a smaller one.

Now I'm trying to figure how to that plate larger more permanent than temporary.
It turns out to be tied to my sleep quality and diet. Maybe some habits, too.

If 80 percent of Autistics have Executive dysfunction that would make it an Autism trait.
I do think that Executive Dysfunctions will be added as an autism trait in the next DSM manual like sensory sensitivities were added to the last one.

Autism has never been biologically isolated or sub divided yet in the as unknown 80% left of the condition.

Diagnosis traits are deliberately left subjective and simple as autism is the miscellaneous tray of neurology.

If they included other stuff like dexterity, stomach issues etc there would be no place to diagnose people with something.

It’s why autism on its own can never really be an identity as it’s so miscellaneous and unknown but that’s a separate matter to the post

Executive dysfunction is a behavioral symptom that disrupts a person's ability to manage their own thoughts, emotions and actions. It's most common with certain mental health conditions, especially addictions, behavioral disorders, brain development disorders and mood disorders.

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EF issues is not an exclusive ASD trait.


EF issues could be very much be anything else.

Specific diagnosis usually gives out specific EF issues (either one or a few out of all).
In usual cases, that particular dysfunction is dragging down the rest of one's EF abilities as one affects another.

Some are non-issue executive dysfunctions.
Like how being overly emotional won't impede one's job, sense of judgment, and without becoming a liability or a danger to self and other.

But it may explain why some are still 'competent' -- because their particular EF issue do not drag the rest down or is manageable or can be "isolated" in some way or form.


If... Dyspraxia with planning, ADHD with inhibitions, BPD with emotional regulation, etc...

Which is ASD's?
Input and processing?

EF issues is not an exclusive ASD trait.

Sensory sensitivities are not exclusive to ASD, repetitive behaviors are not exclusive to ASD, and social difficulties are not exclusive to ASD.


That is why Autism is considered a spectrum disorder.

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