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16 Oct 2024, 1:22 pm

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Kanye West claimed he’s autistic in a new text to Elon Musk.

The Yeezy fashion designer requested his friend Ian Connor share screenshots on Instagram of his purported messages to the Tesla co-founder, in which he also declared he is not bipolar.

“When are we going to speak You owe me nothing,” the texts, posted early Wednesday, began.

“You never have to speak to me again But if we do speak The nature of the relationship has to change I’m not bipolar I have signs of autism from my [2002] car accident,” he said, referring to his famous crash that led to his hit song “Through the Wire” in which he rapped with his jaw wired shut.

West, 46, first revealed he had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder in 2018 but years later claimed during a Twitter tirade that he was “mentally misdiagnosed.”

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16 Oct 2024, 1:31 pm

Gossip is that autism caused his car crash. :nerdy:


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16 Oct 2024, 2:12 pm

Reminds me when I once had a "friend" that thought him being hit by a car made him autistic and that brain damage caused autism.

He wasn't even diagnosed but decided he had it too and being hit by a car caused it. Then he tried to deny he never said he was hit by a car. Talk about gas lighting.


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17 Oct 2024, 12:56 am

I suppose there might be a little less stigma towards autism than bipolar.



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18 Oct 2024, 4:56 pm

This is one of the situations where it kind of could happen under the previous diagnostic guidelines, a young child that got a head injury could wind up with more or less PDD-NOS. But, I think that it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that that's the thing people are referring to ASD these days.



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19 Oct 2024, 11:22 pm

I have to hand him one thing--he's saved Elon from being the worst thing for autism representation in our lifetimes.



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19 Oct 2024, 11:58 pm

If he has autism, he would have had it before the auto accident. He sounds delusional.


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20 Oct 2024, 12:47 am

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If he has autism, he would have had it before the auto accident. He sounds delusional.


For a dude with both untreated bipolar and a history of psychosis delusional seems perfectly on-brand.


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20 Oct 2024, 1:47 am

Even if he does have autism that does not undo his Trump obsession or sexism he's expressed, idk if he's autistic or not I don't really buy it but even it was true autism is not an excuse to be an absolute as*hole.


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20 Oct 2024, 8:04 am

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Even if he does have autism that does not undo his Trump obsession or sexism he's expressed, idk if he's autistic or not I don't really buy it but even it was true autism is not an excuse to be an absolute as*hole.


There’s a culture of antipsychiatry on the right that tends to be weird about mental illness, a category in which they include autism. For instance, when Greta Thunberg spoke before Congress in 2019, and it was reported that she was on the spectrum, some conservatives argued that she was being taken advantage of—as if her autism meant she was a mentally incapacitated person incapable of thinking independently. They were adopting a tone of fake sympathy to put her down by implying she lacked agency. Unfortunately, that’s how a lot of the public understands autism.

With regard to his denial of having bipolar disorder on the grounds that Jewish doctors are trying to control him, putting aside the anti-Semitism for the moment, it’s common for people with psychosis to claim the meds are an attempt to poison them. But with him, some part of me is reluctant to pathologize his behavior, because it just feels like everything he says is an attempt to deflect blame. He always talks as if he never can do any wrong, that everything is always somebody else’s fault. He was like this even a couple of decades ago when he was occasionally saying things I kind of agreed with (“Bush doesn’t care about black people”). If there’s any pathological explanation for him, I think it would be more in the realm of NPD than bipolar disorder or autism. Barring that, maybe at least part of the problem is his years of being a mega-superstar where so many people worship at his feet. Not everyone in his position becomes this obnoxious, but it can’t be healthy for anyone’s soul.



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05 Feb 2025, 11:41 am

Ye Says Wife Bianca Censori Helped Him Get Autism Spectrum Diagnosis

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In an interview with Justin LaBoy’s The Download podcast his week Ye revealed that his wife, Bianca Censori, has helped him realize that he is on the autism spectrum. “My wife took me because she said, ‘Something about your personality doesn’t feel like it’s bipolar, I’ve seen bipolar before,’” Ye said of what he called the revelation that he does not suffer from bipolar disorder — as he’s previously shared — but that he has ASD (autism spectrum disorder).

And come to find out, it’s really a case of autism that I have,” he said.

West was involuntarily hospitalized in 2016 after suffering what was described as a “psychiatric emergency” that manifested as “temporary psychosis due to sleep deprivation and dehydration.”

According to Ye, the new understanding of his ASD has helped him put some of his behavior into perspective. He noted that he went to an unnamed doctor that he claimed had worked with other famous people — including, according to Ye, Justin Bieber — which is when Censori told him that he might have the wrong mental health diagnosis; West’s former wife, Kim Kardashian, opened up in 2019 about what was them deemed Ye’s bipolar diagnosis.

“Autism takes you to a Rain Man thing where you’re like, ‘Oh man, I’m gonna wear this [Donald] Trump hat ‘cause I just like Trump in general,” he said of his support of former, and current President Donald Trump, noting that he has not taken “the medication” — he did not specify what medication — since he found out about the incorrect bipolar diagnosis. “And when people tell you to not do it you just get on that one point… and that’s my problem, when fans tell me to do my album a certain way, I’ll do it the opposite way, just because.”

West talked about how difficult it is for those in his orbit to help him because “this is like a grown man, you can’t tell him. You can’t take control of his bank account. You can’t control what I’m saying on Twitter. But a lot of what was sending me into the episodes… my dad and a bunch people said, ‘You can’t leave Adidas why would you leave all that money?,’” he added in reference to Adidas cutting off ties with Ye in 2022 after years of a lucrative partnership in the wake of the rapper’s string of hate-filled, antisemitic rants. “The constant feeling of not being in control, spun me out of control.”

As for not taking his medication, West said he’s trying to find “stuff that doesn’t block the creativity,” claiming that it’s “worth a ramp-up” if it results in creativity.

West is still working on rebuilding his formerly formidable fashion and music empire in the wake of the rapid meltdown in his fortunes following his 2022-2023 spree of provocative, antisemitic comments, which included a tweet announcing he was going “death con [sic] 3 on Jewish people, repeated praise for Holocaust mastermind Adolf Hitler and the parading of the white supremacist phrase “White Lives Matter” on shirts at Paris Fashion Week.

He was rapidly dropped by the Gap, Adidas, Balenciaga and his agents at CAA and has his social media accounts suspended or revoked in a fallout so complete that the former — and according to him, again — billionaire said in February of last year that he nearly went bankrupt.

West was in headlines again over the weekend with is latest headline-grabbing provocation, when he walked the red carpet at the 67th annual Grammy Awards fully clothed while Censori modeled a see-through nude dress that exposed her private parts.


I won’t say he is not autistic if he was diagnosed he was diagnosed. I am not privy to why the clinician gave him that diagnosis. And of course one can be autistic and have other conditions.

I will say nothing he described in the article are autistic traits. Being autistic does not prevent one from being a contemptible person which he certainly is. People like him are harmful to the autistic community.


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06 Feb 2025, 4:29 am

Autistic billionaire's club has certainly gotten bigger since I was last on WP!!
Elon
Bill Gates
Bill H Gross
Richard Branson
now....Kanye?



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06 Feb 2025, 5:02 am

Key West is quite correct that one can end up with autism due to a severe car accident. A severe head injury is the only cause of autism to people who did not have autism since birth.

Secondly, sadly it is common for doctors to wrongly diagnose bipolar instead of autism in some patients. If they knew more about the two conditions, they would realize that it takes four days or longer for a chemical imbalance (Bipolar) to go from a high to a low in the brain. If the patient goes from a high to a low quicker than four days then it indicates it is far more likely to be autism, as autism patients can get a high one day and a low the next, or even go from several highs to lows in the same day. Another thing to note is that bipolar highs and lows are extreme. Autism highs to lows are less severe, not to say they are not an issue.

Proper diagnosis is vital as many autistic people have been wrongly diagnosed and actually ended up with both autism and bipolar on top actually caused by taking the bipolar medication. (If one hears the talks given by those who spent decades wrongly diagnosed and therefore wrongly medicated, what their lives were like before the correct diagnosis, one will realize how important it is to get the diagnosis right... And it is not easy! Why the four day rule was given to help the medical field preventing misdiagnosed autistic people).

Of course, one can have both conditions natrually, though this is not that common.



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06 Feb 2025, 5:10 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
A severe head injury is the only cause of autism to people who did not have autism since birth.


That claim seems to be at odds with the diagnostic criteria for autism:

Symptoms must be evident early in development, though they may only become noticeable when social demands exceed abilities or may be masked by learned coping strategies later in life.

Kanye was ~25 when he had the car accident he claims caused his autism. By definition, that's not how autism works. If he's autistic, he had autism before the car accident although it's possible a TBI caused the symptoms to become more pronounced or reduced his ability to inhibit symptoms associated with autism.


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06 Feb 2025, 5:26 am

MG has a point. Kim Peek (the man who was the inspiration for Rain man) had brain damage to the cerebellum. He subsequently developed autistic like traits and savant skills. I think there are cases of acquired brain injury leading to autistic traits, although the medical fraternity don't recognise these people as autistic as per ICD11 or DSMV.