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We need to stop diagnosing each other with autism and ADHD
Aside from being just plain wrong – if I have Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) then I’d argue so does anyone who’s ever worked an office job or owned a smartphone – it’s kind of, well, rude, isn’t it? Not to mention utterly bizarre that the average layperson feels so comfortable flinging out medical labels. In the era of social media, it seems like everyone considers themselves an “expert” on neurodivergence – even when that “expertise” boils down to having listened to a podcast or watched a YouTube short about it one time.
The issue has come to the fore again due to actor Bella Ramsey’s revelation that they obtained their autism diagnosis while filming the first season of The Last of Us after a crew member spotted and flagged the signs. In Ramsey’s case, it was slightly different; the colleague in question genuinely had first-hand experience as their own child is neurodivergent.
But that’s a rarity these days. Most of the time, the person proffering their strident opinion on the complexities of the chemical makeup of your brain or the way it’s wired is completely unqualified to do so. The age of the armchair diagnosis is in full swing.
Social media has undoubtedly been a huge factor in your average Joe feeling entitled to pronounce the people in their lives “neurospicy”, thanks to the exponential growth in content surrounding ADHD and autism. Platforms like Instagram and TikTok, while initially great tools for shedding light on these conditions and destigmatising them, have recently been accused of peddling a huge amount of misinformation and convincing an increasing number of people to misdiagnose themselves and others.
One analysis of TikTok autism spectrum disorder (ASD) videos published in the science journal Drugs, Addictions and Health in December 2024 revealed that of 100 TikTok videos tagged with “autism spectrum disorder”, 24 per cent were classed as useful compared to the 40 per cent that were deemed “misleading”. Most clips (86 per cent) weren’t posted by healthcare professionals.
Crucially, the study broke down whether videos were about the symptoms/diagnosis of ASD; overall information about the condition; causes of ASD; or advice on managing the disorder. The vast majority (62 per cent) of content concerned itself with symptoms and diagnosis. Is it any wonder, then, that so many social media users suddenly start seeing neurodivergence everywhere they look?
Some experts have raised the issue of potential misdiagnosis due to increased awareness of these disorders, while others have argued that, if more of us actually are neurodivergent, shouldn’t research be focused on helping autistic people lead happier, healthier lives? “We are currently very focused on making a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ distinction in terms of diagnoses,” as William Mandy, a professor of neurodevelopmental conditions at University College London, told The Guardian But why not say, ‘Somebody has these traits. How might that be affecting their life and what we can do to help?’”
Grimes Warns Against ‘Social Media Mental Health’ Advice After ADHD and Autism Diagnosis
“There’s this subculture of I guess ‘mental health’ accounts that I actually think are like, extreme infohazards,” Grimes wrote. After being diagnosed earlier this year, she said, she realized dyslexia might be the reason she’s unable to spell anything without using spell-check. “I feel like had we known this when I was a child I would have worked so much less hard, been on drugs, and so many of the weird obsessions and motivations I had would have been seen as pathological,” she continued. “I could have written off certain things that were very hard for me but I’m glad I over came them.”
Grimes shared her lengthy rumination in response to a post from an account called ADHD Memes, which read: “I saw a TikTok about how excessive reading in childhood is a sign of dissociation and I can’t stop thinking about it.” In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM, a number of combinations of present symptoms can be used to reach a diagnosis for any particular disorder. What’s relevant for some might not be for others. Grimes noted that in her own experience, being an avid reader actually helped her manage her ADHD symptoms.
“An adhd account trying to pathologize one of the best things a child can do to help with adhd (and also become an auto didact and knowledgeable person etc etc) is so dark…. I can’t even begin,” she continued. “I think the nature of this uninformed social media mental health subculture is rly a big concern. Some are great ofc but a lot of these seem like explicitly anti civilizational and geared towards making people worse.”
Some users who engaged with the post took issue with Grimes suggesting that mental illnesses can be “contagious.” She cited learning about mental health in school and noticing that herself and other classmates would “start getting symptoms of them during those units” that would later go away. She later clarified: “I meant symptoms – I’ve def seen people get into lifestyle changes and adhd symptoms stop cuz they didn’t have it, they had dopaminergic burn out, which essentially mimics the disorder.”
Generally, Grimes said, “I just think unsupervised medical advice and proliferation of info about symptoms is a very tricky thing.” In defense of her stance, she later added that she went to school for neuroscience. In 2016, she told NPR she “was in a program at McGill [University in Montreal] called Electroacoustics, where we studied a lot of how the brain interacts with music,” which isn’t quite the same thing. Like the pop psychology accounts, it all should be taken with a grain of salt.
At times I have regretted coming from a generation that frowns more upon talking about personal issues, especially mental condition ones. This article is causing me to rethink that to a degree.
I need to clear up a possible misunderstanding about the purpose of this thread. This is not intended to be a general anti self diagnosis thread. It is intended to be an anti social media diagnosis thread. I fully understand that professional diagnosis are not available for many because of affordability issues and lack of competent clinicians. I understand that there are often limited to no benefits and treatments available for older adults so why spend the time and money getting a professional diagnosis. Social media has its uses and like it or not is here to stay. Social Media can provide a starting point that sparks curiosity but that is as far as it should go. There are reputable sources.
Grimes talked about the power of suggestion when studying a mental condition. That is something to be aware of.
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I wish this tendency was only limited to autism and ADHD, but people do this with all sorts of diagnoses.
The way people throw labels like narcissist, borderline and psychopath around you'd swear they were 50% of the population.
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The way people throw labels like narcissist, borderline and psychopath around you'd swear they were 50% of the population.
OCD is a common one. I am sensitive to that one because I have a relative whose OCD led to suicide ideation. Depression is another common one. Feeling very bad after getting fired or breaking up with a partner is normal. While these type of events can trigger depression more often than not it will resolve itself without professional help.
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I think it's complicated. On one hand I think people need to realize that ADHD or autism is more common than they may think and that people that have a regular job or act relatively normal can have variants of these diagnosis. If people thow these labels at themselves I can live with that. I think it's pretty easy to challenge them if they are way out of line. But I think you never should diagnose other people unless they clearly ask for your opinion. When it comes to speculate about famous people I think you should be careful with that. But if you are autistic yourself I think in some cases it could be ok to do that in a conversation with other autistic people.
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The way people throw labels like narcissist, borderline and psychopath around you'd swear they were 50% of the population.
OCD is a common one. I am sensitive to that one because I have a relative whose OCD led to suicide ideation. Depression is another common one. Feeling very bad after getting fired or breaking up with a partner is normal. While these type of events can trigger depression more often than not it will resolve itself without professional help.
I agree those are also solid examples.
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Speculate is the operative word.
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This is a direct result of the neurodiversity movement trying to present autism as a personality type and removing references to disorder.
If autism is a presented as a personality type, then yes you`ll get millions of people spotting things in themselves and others, why not?
What NT doesn’t feel socially awkward sometimes? who gets sensory overload in a loud place, people shouting with unpleasant music in the background, sometimes you would rather sit in and watch a movie than go to a boring party, "maybe I’m autistic", "that sounds like my friend mike he`s a bit like that".
And now people complain the system cant cope anymore and autistic people cant access things due to competition from others that don't need it.
You reap what you sow
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^ So is labeling someone gay and shipping varying fictional characters.
And outting said characters as aroace or straight offends the whole fandom. Blame the pride movement.
Totally not another human phenomenon.
Could be why I relate less with the common autistic stories.
And will never able to self diagnose.
Socially anxious allistics relates more to autistics whose life narrative is mostly about anxiety and loneliness.
Everyday denied human attributes of discomfort and lacking is relatable to many, one that causes lots of mental health issues and trauma.
Seriously.
The problem is subtly marrying the idea of all "able bodied neurotypical standard" with "not neurodiverse".
Or, denying human flaws and blaming it over neurodivergence, for it has an underlying connotation that being a complete human means being all neurotypical with no "notable problem".
I've already knew awareness a double edged sword...
One that can result mass misunderstandings.
Still; no one so far is acknowledging the loneliness epidemic.
Barely any account had brought up that most social media users are young adults or teens who had yet to know who they are and where they belong.
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The ND movement is the least important reason. It is much more about ease of access to information, the selfie "look at me" culture, and the disappearance of the stigma against butting into other people's business. Besides people who are narcissists, clinically depressed, etc are not usually considered neurodiverse.
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Nobody is presenting autism as a "personality type". The word you're looking for is "neurotype".
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Nobody is presenting autism as a "personality type". The word you're looking for is "neurotype".
To some the words are interchangeable
https://uquiz.com/quiz/VgV50R/what-type ... e_vignette
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Nobody is presenting autism as a "personality type". The word you're looking for is "neurotype".
To some the words are interchangeable
https://uquiz.com/quiz/VgV50R/what-type ... e_vignette
That doesn't change facts. Introverted or extroverted are different personality types. Allistic or autistic are different neurotypes. I am an extroverted autistic.
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Facts are irrelevant to many people thats the whole point of the article.
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