If seeing the Vines is believing (Frontman has Asperger's)

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18 Mar 2008, 9:36 pm

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IN the pre-YouTube era it would've been passed between friends on a well-worn videotape: a three-minute clip from 2002 of the Australian rock band the Vines demolishing the set of David Letterman's show following -- well, during -- a performance of the group's hit single "Get Free."

Today it's easy to find -- just search for "Vines live meltdown" and you'll pull up footage that's been viewed more than 250,000 times since it was uploaded in 2006.

Part of the neo-garage scene earlier this decade that made stars out of the Strokes, the Hives and the White Stripes, the Vines -- and, in particular, the group's frontman, Craig Nicholls -- nearly instantaneously established a reputation as out-of-control bad boys known for combative interviews, chaotic live shows and a marijuana-and-McDonald's diet that might've given a young Mick Jagger pause.

The Letterman video seemed like solid evidence of Nicholls' desire to join rock 'n' roll's hall of shame. Yet in 2004 the singer-guitarist revealed that he has Asperger's syndrome, a form of high-functioning autism characterized by "deficits in social interaction and unusual responses to the environment," according to the Yale Developmental Disabilities Clinic.

"The guy who diagnosed Craig said his life consisted pretty much of the worst things you could do for someone in his condition," says the Vines' manager, Andy Kelly. "Being in a different place every day, meeting new people, just having everything be totally unstructured. Things went downhill very quickly."

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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/ne ... 3319.story


here's the meltdown:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKm966ACdQ[/youtube]


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18 Mar 2008, 11:18 pm

That's a world-class meltdown...

I've never had anything that severe... I've screamed at my gf and then burst into tears straight after. I'd cleaned out her car and she took offense to it because she felt I was going through her things, felt she was a grub and that it reminded her of how her father never let her have privacy... I hadn't thought of it before but I think it really was a meltdown - not anything to this scale, but it was a highly emotional situation.

Afterwards she went back to her car after work and realised what a good job I'd done and thanked me for it. It was still pretty scary for her, though.


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19 Mar 2008, 5:58 am

It was actually Tony Attwood who diagnosed Craig Nicholls.

I'm going through a semi-obsession with The Vines. I've been watching all Craig's interviews on Youtube, listening to their music.

Here's that fantastic song sans meltdown:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s_nuSjebas[/youtube]


Here's an interview ... Craig Nicholls has a reputation for his meltdowns as dicussed in this interview. He makes reference to Tony Attwood, saying he now has his 'Doctor's letter'.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyRYjqD5aCo[/youtube]

Here he is just being silly!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjE7wKZprF8&feature=related[/youtube]

I'm 35, but am not too old to have a crush on this gorgeous rockstar!

I love Craig!! !! !!

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19 Mar 2008, 10:22 am

:shaking2:



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20 Mar 2008, 6:32 am

God, he reminds me so much of me in his mannerisms and the way he interviews and avoids the speaker and camera with that flitting eye contact and strange accent and stuff... There really is something about him though, he's really endearing. This is actually brilliant for me; my boyfriend (a musician) found out Craig had AS and brought it up with me last week, and I think it's kinda helped him understand me better for it, and that really I'm not the odd one out, that it is pretty common really, and that (despite my being anything but a geek or mathsy) the stereotype really is completely false. It's given him someone else he can relate me to, and it's a person he's really loved for a long while too. We had a really good long discussion and I think it's really helped him to have someone else he can relate me and my quirks to in a context other than 'bill gates has it'... a cool person rather than a successful nerd. So I'm very happy with this. I've watched interviews of him for the last few hours; I'm just so struck on how much like me he is in the way he speaks and acts and moves, it's bizarre... I haven't ever come across it before. What a dude!!


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20 Mar 2008, 6:43 am

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There really is something about him though, he's really endearing


I'm totally in love with him ..... my first rock star crush ever :heart:

But my husband won't let me put a poster of him up in our bedroom :cry:

I'd better stop posting about how much I love him or I'll get into trouble!

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20 Mar 2008, 6:48 am

Haha, spose you could say my partner's my first rock star crush ever... just so happened to be the man of my dreams too and that he fell in love with me, how's that for the gods of good fortune smiling down eh?! 8O

Seriously though, I think having someone like Craig out as Asperger's (sounds like we're talking about homosexuality!) can only be a positive thing. Trying to explain it and only have famous people to relate it to like bill gates and various artists from centuries ago doesn't make it very relateable or understandable, so having someone a bit more cool and in the music industry makes things easier for people like me who don't do the maths thing well but instead inherit the prodigious creative genes.


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20 Mar 2008, 8:36 pm

haha originally when I found out he´s an Aspie I get obsessed with his music too .. guess it makes us feel a little better about ourselves seeing that were not alone and ..well we actually ROCK! ..lol



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21 Mar 2008, 6:54 pm

The fact that Craig has AS does not make me like the Vines any more that I do (they're pretty good), but their performance of "Outtathaway!" on Jools Holland is probably one the ten best live performances of all time.

It's a bit of a shame that ever since he was diagnosed, I haven't seen an article or review that doesn't mention AS.


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21 Mar 2008, 10:18 pm

Is that a meltdown? (I can't tell; I'm not being sarcastic.) I'm not acquainted with the band but that performance reminds me of Kurt Cobain. . .



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22 Mar 2008, 1:00 pm

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Is that a meltdown? (I can't tell; I'm not being sarcastic.) I'm not acquainted with the band but that performance reminds me of Kurt Cobain. . .


Yeah, he reminded me of Kurt there too.



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22 Mar 2008, 4:00 pm

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23 Mar 2008, 8:32 am

i looked up the vines on youtube...


Those meltdowns among other things give there shows that little extra punch that music seems to be missing now days!

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*dances to the vines*


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