Jenny McCarthy... Open-Ended Discussion:

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In seeing as though this has essentially been dabbled into within another topic, and in seeing as though we ALL know how quirky Jenny McCarthy is... what is your take on her & that doctor ((insert doctor's name here, it elludes me, currently)) who did the 60 people study on the MMR vaccine and it causing autism?

I'll have you all know that the exact same study was done in Sweeden, with a ratio of people of 600 -- sounds a heck of a lot more accurate, if you ask me, and in seeing as BOTH my parents are scientist, one a PhD in Microbology, and the other having a Batcholors in the same -- and absoluely nothing. Nothing was proven that the murcury within the MMR vaccine causes atuism.

FYI, that doctor in which name elludes me here, actually just reciently had his liscnese revoked! Good riddence, I say!

What is all of your take? I only bring this up, because I am a certified trained advocate within ASD, also, and I FIRMLY believe that the whole bases behind the thinking(s) of that doctor and Jenny McCarthy is a crock!

1) You obviously CANNOT cure something as completely and just downright neurological as ASD.

2) IF this particular doctor-in-question was accurate within his study, then we'd ALL -- neurotypical absolutely notwithstanding on this -- have ((at the very least)) ASD traits!

Feedback, PLEASE!

There's been like 16 major studies all debunking the mercury-autism connection - however, we live in a society where celebrities and people who know how to sell things are the ones that the media listens to and biomed is a huge and profitable industry that preys off the fears of parents so they have an interest in continuing the mercury myth.

I couldn't agree with you there, any more than my mother is alive and is my very best advocate!

Well I think the problem with the mercury and autism matter is related to the "confirmation bias" and the fact that people (NT and AS alike) often admire the sole voice calling in the wilderness so much that they fail to test the truth of the sole voice by using their heads.

I think that once the claim that a conspiracy has started by big pharma to hurt little Tarquin, anyone who says to the "modern parents" that the MMR jab is safe and that childhood diseases are dangerous is then thought of as a pawn of the drug industry. While I do not think that the whole of the drug industry is 100 % morally good and nice, it is unfair and stupid to think that the whole drug industry is wrong and new age hippy stuff is perfect.

For a good laugh at modern hippy parents look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Modern_Parents

For an introduction to the confirmation bias look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

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Diagnosed under the DSM5 rules with autism spectrum disorder, under DSM4 psychologist said would have been AS (299.80) but I suspect that I am somewhere between 299.80 and 299.00 (Autism) under DSM4.

just out of curiosity, why would there even be mercury in a vaccine?
Is mercury essential to fighting off the illness

& I don't like Jenny McCarthy

Thimerosal, which contains mercury, has been used as a preservative.

Well, you see, the reason they can't is because it's a huge government conspiracy to make everybody autistic. Because they're Teh Ebulz, so they want to steal your child's soul for fun and profit! Also, they're suppressing knowledge of the 100% effective, totally safe biomed cures. Oh! Oh! And using coping mechanisms makes your autism worse. Oh, and 100% of people who get the shot have autism. There were never autistic cavemen, and it's not like Avogadro and Einstein and Jefferson were autistic. No, the whole world was an NT utopia until the evil pharmaceutical companies schemed to ruin lives by turning your children autistic!

...Well, I guess that's one thing I can thank the government for.

*sigh* I didn't make up a single sentence in this post, save this one, although I did paraphrase.

My Dad had been born in rural eastern Washington in 1921, before (I believe) anyone was vaccinated. And yet, I am pretty certain that with his narrow obsession with gardening, his above average intelligence, photographic memory, and yet with his social awkwardness, just to name a few of his traits, my Dad was an Aspie without the benefit of vaccines. I never believed this anti-vaccine kick.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

sticking strictly to the topic of JM and the totality thereof, i'd have to say i consider her to be somewhat pneumatic.

It's not only dying, it can also be a whole life of illnesses tortures, humiliations, shame, awful difficulties for those who suffer from polio or malaria for instance or even rage.

Or suffer from infertility due to pertussis, rubella.

I don't think it's the clever thing to do to refuse the basic vaccines because then the illnesses can spread all over the world again.
And those are dangerous illnesses for sure!