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KenG
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22 Sep 2008, 9:25 am

The London Autistic Rights Movement is planning to hold a protest about the possible extradition of Gary
McKinnon outside the US Embassy at Grosvenor Square on the 28th September (a Sunday) from about 4 pm. This will
go ahead even if McKinnon has already been extradited - 'bring him
home' is as good a slogan as 'don't send him away'.

This protest is being called because Gary McKinnon, who hacked into Pentagon computers, and who is autistic, is facing a lifetime in a US jail for his 'crime' which he carried out in pursuit of his conviction that the US government is covering up evidence of UFOs. London ARM believes this kind of jail term far outweighs the severity of his crime, and does not reflect the fact that, like many aspies, the way he percieves and deals with the world lead him to courses of action that may not in any real way harm anyone, but are regarded by the NT world as "unacceptable".

We are going to try and get wider allies on board, including Liberty,
Amnesty International, the UK Disabled Peoples Council, and others,
such as local Stop the War Groups and any interested political
parties. Anyone who is interested in joining in should come along at the appointed time.


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26 Sep 2008, 7:15 pm

Hacking into the Pentagon's computer is a serious crime, and the hacker should face justice for it, if only to serve as a deterrent to others whose intentions are far more malevolent, however negligeable the impact actually is. How is the government supposed to know what the hacker's intent is? Plus, the fact that he's trying to make a statement about autism is not an acceptable excuse.

Plus, we don't know yet how severe his punishment will be, because he still has to be tried for his crime.

Sorry if I seem unsympathetic to his cause. There's nothing I want more than to feel accepted by the rest of the world. But threatening a nation's security is not something I can support.



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26 Sep 2008, 11:57 pm

Please don't. We don't need any more of the stereotype of autistics as hackers with no consciences. And autism is not a legitimate excuse for criminal behavior. :x


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27 Sep 2008, 2:46 am

KenG wrote:
The London Autistic Rights Movement is planning to hold a protest about the possible extradition of Gary
McKinnon outside the US Embassy at Grosvenor Square on the 28th September (a Sunday) from about 4 pm. This will
go ahead even if McKinnon has already been extradited - 'bring him
home' is as good a slogan as 'don't send him away'.

This protest is being called because Gary McKinnon, who hacked into Pentagon computers, and who is autistic, is facing a lifetime in a US jail for his 'crime' which he carried out in pursuit of his conviction that the US government is covering up evidence of UFOs. London ARM believes this kind of jail term far outweighs the severity of his crime, and does not reflect the fact that, like many aspies, the way he percieves and deals with the world lead him to courses of action that may not in any real way harm anyone, but are regarded by the NT world as "unacceptable".

We are going to try and get wider allies on board, including Liberty,
Amnesty International, the UK Disabled Peoples Council, and others,
such as local Stop the War Groups and any interested political
parties. Anyone who is interested in joining in should come along at the appointed time.


If there were social consequences he was unaware of I can understand, but besides that I see no excuse except for his age. I do see a lifetime in jail as harsh punishment regardless. It does not seem like his hacking crime was very severe.


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27 Sep 2008, 5:45 am

Whether Gary is guilty of any crime or not, or whether he is autistic or not, or whether any harm was done or not, are irrelevant - HE SHOULD NOT BE EXTRADITED TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. It is outrageous that the British government are not standing up to the bullying USA in this matter. It is also outrageous that this has been dragging on since 2002! All Gary wanted was to expose the fact that the USA government has the technology to be able to provide free energy, and are deliberately withholding it.

If I lived in Britain, I would most certainly be attending this protest :x .



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28 Sep 2008, 6:13 am

so, how did it all go?



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29 Sep 2008, 4:00 am

(elaborating on Kelsi's question)
To the Brittons among us:
Did you attend the protest?
If so - How was it?


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02 Oct 2008, 3:02 am

..."Thanks to everyone who demonstrated their support for Gary McKinnon at the US Embassy on Sunday
September 29, 2008 10:40 PM

Thanks to everyone, from the London Autistic Rights Movement and Gary McKinnon's other friends, who demonstrated their support for Gary at the US Embassy on Sunday.

The protest was entirely peaceful and well organised.

Hopefully someone at the US Embassy has had to write a report about it, and the issue of unfair extradition to the USA, for their superiors back in Washington DC."

http://freegary.org.uk/



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02 Oct 2008, 8:51 am

Kelsi wrote:
! All Gary wanted was to expose the fact that the USA government has the technology to be able to provide free energy, and are deliberately withholding it.

:facepalm:

Um... no.


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11 Oct 2008, 1:01 pm

Here is a documentary video about the protest:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNvbh3LM0UQ[/youtube]


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15 Oct 2008, 4:24 am

A recut version of the documentary, with better sound:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JykjcYWdB9o[/youtube]


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15 Oct 2008, 10:03 am

Who is the woman in the video, btw? Anyone we know?



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15 Oct 2008, 10:28 am

blue_bean wrote:
Who is the woman in the video, btw? Anyone we know?
It is Rozagy, director of the UK chapter of Asperger Women Association.
Last year, she released the autism song 'Open Every Door': http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt42986.html
She had also been interviewed by Donna Williams, over here: http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/08/0 ... ing-about/


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06 Dec 2008, 3:12 pm

I wish Gary luck

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UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown has been urged to halt the extradition to the US of computer hacker Gary McKinnon.

BBC News story



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06 Dec 2008, 4:25 pm

Personally I believe they should go ahead and extradite him. If he wants to use AS as excuse he present to the judge in the US where he will get a fair trial trial as he is entitled to in the US constitution. He disabled pentagon computers just months after 9-11 putting people lives pontentially at risk that is serious. My two cents :)



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07 Dec 2008, 2:16 pm

dfgh wrote:
Personally I believe they should go ahead and extradite him. If he wants to use AS as excuse he present to the judge in the US where he will get a fair trial trial as he is entitled to in the US constitution.
You mean like all those guys in Guantanamo get their human rights respected and they get access to lawyers and fair trials?

dfgh wrote:
... He disabled pentagon computers just months after 9-11 putting people lives pontentially at risk that is serious. My two cents :)
And isn't it a good job that he left messages in their systems telling them their security sucked? Can you imagine if the authorities weren't alerted to their own failures to secure their systems and if a real terrorist had gained access and done something really bad?