The Pandora's Box of Autism Politics

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I like the metaphor of Pandora's box. I would like to develop a short story for my closing with concern to advocacy issues I've presented on this website along with perhaps some input from anyone whom replies. In idea the box represents issues that derive great emotional tensions socially. Some issues are so emotionally burdensome they are like a social evil but using the word evil I'd like to define that as an extreme mental burden that spreads to others and creates near unreasonable conflict.

How is the Pandora's box opened? Whenever someone mentions the topic and it spreads in awareness to others in the same social circle and perhaps beyond. Closing Pandora's box metaphorically or simply said ending the influence of the issue is very hard to do. Some issues are so violitile such as prenatal testing for autism in potential it has created such harsh rifts socially a great anger, hatred and despondency has lasted for years. It can be defined as an issue as a great social ill (evil) that has burdened other potential progresses in what I'd like to define simply as The Great Distraction.

Would you like to add to this subject before I write my 1- 4 page short creative story?

Nathan Young

im not sure i get the post

What issues have effected other issues? The autism abortion issue seemed to have been a strong motivator to redefine the image autism in society and go up against treatment advancements and negative ideas of autism. It also created strong anti-societal fellings where applicable, bitterness between people where applicable and social discourses and general human relations between one another in adverse ways. As a function of concern in the psyche it might not always seem to be an active topic in the mind(s) involved but as it had become ingrained it subconsciously effects how others relate to issues which may be indirectly relevant psychically.

the issue of abortion is the most powerful political issue of the last 100 years.i dont know for sure if the asan is sincere about abotion.however i dont agree with you that aborton is just a scare tactic used to argue against cure.abortion and cure are two separate issues.i personaly have a tendency to go pro cure anti abortion.using roe v wade and a belief in a right to choose as a means of discretit the asan is not sincere in my judgement

Vermont said basically what I think. Saying that just because a group talks about abortion possibly happening doesn't just mean they are using a scare tactic. You have to actually say why it is just a scare tactic. They have a good explanation why it could happen, so you have to provide a better explanation of why it wouldn't, not just say it is a scare tactic. Again, as Vermont said professing the right to choose is not a sincere reason for discrediting ASAN for talking about abortion.

I am not sure if you understood the intent of the post. Merely it is not about abortion rights but the power of the conflicting emotions and the image of autism. How it effects other issues because ASAN itself can do very little about the abortion issue but instead it is a conflict of interest for them but socially for others how it effects how others relate to other issues. With regards to cure it is a known fact many manifestations of cure being understood as simply abortion have transgressed. It to them is not about remedy for specific adverse symptoms it seems at least at times but abortion. Other then this cure being judged as the removal of self can be both attributed to potentially abortion as in the statement I in the sublime as if others would no longer become to exist but in place of the womb others becoming as existing as certainly hardships are not the entire self.

The staunch inability to figure cure to strictly mean adverse symptoms preventing any personal achievement subjectively of normal functioning I believe is suspect. It is rare to come across cure translating to anything other then the entire self and not strictly the inability to speak, sensory integration and so on as in specific symptoms by pride advocates. This post is not even about ASAN. My concern with them is how they have used abortion to gain attention to in inappropriate ways ask for the publics money for supports. I believe it is so inappropriate it can backfire on the innocent who depend on supports whereas they seem quite very high functioning and attend college successfully and on to getting degrees.

well your post was about pandora's box and i cant think of a bigger cat out of the bag than abortion,and you did mention abortion to my recolection.no,i dont think cure and abortion are intertwined.i would say both asan and A.S have known to use abortion as a scare tactic.the asan is more anti pre natal than anti womens right to choose anyway.im more pro life but i dont think autism speaks wants to kill me

Yes I mentioned abortion as it's been used by pride advocates for some time and in relation to ones advocacy identity. I have not heard of A.S using abortion politics as a scare tactic? Where is this?

i read to many online post to remember something specic,but people use the fear of a women loosing the right to choose to discredit the asan.when there only against pre natal anyway.we have all read such post.you have atacked the asan for not respecting a womens right to choose

Yes because ASAN using the abortion issue in context to support services funding demands. You cannot go against abortion without effecting womens rights. My suggestion was to treat it as the typical abortion political matter and of which my statements are change the law if someone doesn't like it but I myself don't do abortion politics. The issue has indeed effected unrelated issues with focus on the relating image of autism for reasons of potential abortion effecting treatment rights and other issues of accommodations even and that ties into the macro image of autism issue. How it has gone wrong is ASAN's combining of abortion and asking the public for money as simply horribly inappropriate. You see they have created a horrible mess and I'm trying to figure out what I can of it to educate others should it be needed to protect people. I'd really like self-advocacy in general to be perceived as other then ASAN due to their reckless politics as it does estrange very important issues.

i know you cant be pro life and pro choice at the same time.i was just speking against out of context scare tactics.i agree about treating abortion as a normal political issue.abortion has nothing to do realy with autism or cure at all.thats what ive been saying

However it's been used for it. So in this context how can the Pandora's box of autism abortion be closed and how extensive is the influence on other issues? I think it's far to hard to subjectively tell.

The fact is that people have not actually tried to seek cure for people with Down's Syndrome when all they have done is decided to abort the fetus after screening it for the presence of downs. They didn't actually want to get rid of the baby but they just didn't want one with downs because it's a burden. In this case people make it so life is cheap. I doubt in reality many think better of us. To many our differences are just a straight up impediment. And I think that's the whole thing, the screening process. That's why people like ASAN note this, although in actuality they don't actually talk much about it like you profess that they do.

your actualy,and edwards syndrome ab rates are even higher

So yeah, for all your proclamations of people referring to how abortion is a scare tactic the fact is that it is well-documented with many other disabilities where people have found a way to screen for various syndromes. Therefore it is not a scare tactic at all. It's actually a careful extrapolation of existing evidence and current social trends. Attempting to call it a scare tactic I can only imagine would only be used from then on as an attempt to confuse, misrepresent and demonize people that doesn't actually tackle the merit of the opinion of at all and stunts real debate and furthermore puts lives in jepoardy.

you agreed with me when i pointed out scare tactics against the asan.your right about valid reason for there to be concern about abortion.i was simply pointing out alot of the time it is used to minipulative.the asan isnt realy that anti ab there more anti pre natal.and i dont think its fair to say autism speaks is pro abortion when pre natal testing cant even predict it yet.let me put it this way,abortion is over talked about mostly for political perposes