Jenny McCarthy Body Count

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http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/J ... /Home.html

Basically it's a count of everyone that has gotten sick or died because they weren't immunized against preventable illness. Though I'm sure Jenny McCarthy isn't responsible for all those, she sure is responsible for at least a few. Why anyone trusts this former playboy bunny/media whore over doctors, scientists and the medical journals in the first place, I have no idea.

heh. listening to her is about the same as listening to all those "doctors, scientists and the medical journals", as none of them knows what really causes Autism. it's a crap-shoot, anyone's guess. a body count website? lol. thats like blaming Obama for the economy when it was in the toilet years before he got elected.

And she's even gotten to Jim Carrey. I saw him on a talk show one time where he talked about having no faith in medicine or something. It's sad. I wanted to slap him and tell him that his fucktoy isn't a neurologist.

I believe there is a difference between listening to people present evidence, and possible theories consistent with that evidence (as well as pointing out which theories cannot be consistent with the evidence), all summarized as "there is insufficient evidence as yet to determine the cause/s of autism", and listening to someone rabbiting on about their "Mommy intuition".

I think the issue here though is that doctors do not really take the time to talk to their patients or parents in this case and as such, when something like this happens, the issue is the first to be blamed.

I think that doctors need to take the time to discuss this issue with parents rather than saying "There is nothing to be concerned about" as they give the shot. It may also be a good idea come up with more than one schedule. I know that some may take this as a sign of conceding a point that vaccines cause autism but I would rather they think that than parents not getting children the shots that they need. Simply put shots stop diseases that kill. Enough time looking through death registers for family history tells me that

While there is no doubt that certain children have very bad reactions to vaccines, it shouldn't be refered to as "autism". There are children that follow the:

Vaccine ------>Fever-------->Seizure------->"Autism"

pattern, and there are children who seemed to 'have' it from birth. This leads me to believe that these are two seperate disorders.

Weren't several of these children who followed that pattern eventually found to have a mitochondrial disease?

So that would lead to a compromised immune system, which would result in a bad reaction to a vaccine, which causes a seizure, which causes brain damage, which can cause the child to display some autistic symptoms? And these "recovery" stories are just the children being medicated for the seizures and immuno-deficiencies, which lets their brain repair itself?

I guess it's because "autism" is more journalistically established than "mitochondrial disease".

Going strictly by memory, but I think you're right.

In any case, there is a wealth of positive scientific evidence that refutes the vaccine-autism link; and nothing to support it except the assertions of a few quacks who were peddling their bogus, and often deadly, "autism cures". And brainless media whores like McCarthy are supporting those quacks. They're so disappointed that their children aren't "normal" that they will latch onto any nonsense that sounds even remotely plausible to someone lacking a scientific background and critical thinking skills. It gives them someone to blame, so they don't have to accept that it might be their own genetics, or simply the randomness of the universe; and it appears to give them hope that they can "fix" their poor damaged darlings, despite the sheer falseness of that hope.

Children have been killed by the "cures" peddled by these quacks, and more are dying from, and being permanently disabled by, easily preventable disesase, because they buy into this pseudoscientific woo.

Personally I cannot understand why someone with more than two active brain cells would get their medical information from a Playboy-Bunny-turned-actress and a professional comedian rather than the scientists who have spent many years studying the disorder. It makes no sense to me. But then, I never understood why anyone considered "a schoolteacher with no medical background" superior to actual doctors in recommending (potentially toxic) cold treatments.

http://www.kolotv.com/healthbytes/headl ... 55962.html

Also posted in news. Jenny McIdiot has been phenomenally successful. Epidemics to follow.

Of course the fact that often times the doctors (I know for a fact at least a number of them in my country) do not give their own kids the same shots that they are administering to other peoples kids because of insufficient data yet being available as to their long term effects.

As soon as my mum found out that Oprah support Autism Speaks and Jenny McCarthy, she stopped watching her show. I commend her for that. I think that McIdiot spin on her last name suits her very well.

Uck. Oprah supports Autism Speaks? Has she actually done any research into that organization or is she another dumbass celebrity who thinks "It's a charity, therefore it must be good!"?

Do you have a source for this?

Oprah Winfrey is the queen of pseudoscientific and paranormal woo-woo nonsense promoters. She apparently has never met a scam that she didn't like. Psychic, anti-vax, homeopathy, "detoxification", fad diets, past-life regression, conspiracy theories; if it's detached from reality, she's all for it.

I just found out I wasn't vaccinated until I was five. I'm still autistic, and even showed signs of autism before that.

That's good for me to know. I never believed the vaccine theory, because I believe if the mercury in the vaccines were that toxic it would be detectable in the blood or some other tissue test.

The mercury thing is just one of many anti-vax objections. First it was the MMR, then when it was demonstrted that AS was detectable well before the MMR is typically given, they turned to Thimerosal. When that was removed and the AS rate remained unchanged, they then started claiming that it was caused by "too many vaccinations at the same time". Now that AS can be detected as early as 14 months in some cases, I'm waiting to see what kind of nonsense the anti-vaxxers are going to claim next.

There's not a single shred of scientific support for vaccines causing autism; and a whole lot of evidence that it doesn't. The most recent research shows that autism is most definitely genetic. Twin studies show a 60% correlation for clear AS, and a 92% correlation for related neurological conditions. There's also a 3:1 ratio of male to female AS, which effectively invalidates the vaccine eitiology right there.

Part of the problem with determining the genetic basis for AS is that, unlike many developmental disorders, it's not linked to one specific gene or group. The ratio would seem to indicate that it's a sex-linked trait, but that's also been discounted. So far, AS appears to be the result of a complex interaction between several different genes, in different locations; with the various different AS disorders being influenced by a somewhat different combination of genes. There is an indication that there are epigenetic (environmental) triggers as well; but the current understanding is that these would have to be pre-natal, or very early post-natal, and are probably viral.