Any other Aspies following a Natural Hygiene raw food diet?

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28 Nov 2009, 12:50 pm

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I have been thinking about doing a raw food type of diet thing. Mainly becuase I have to get my cholestrol under control.


Instead of switching over totally to a diet of raw food, I usually suggest people start integrating the recipes into their regular diet.
I suppose that's assuming on my part that they're already on a pretty healthy diet already.

If someone is eating lots of soda, candy, pastries, and such just getting that stuff out of their diet is going to make a big improvement even before they start adding raw foods.

The theory is, the better one feels, the more healthy foods they'll be encouraged to integrate into their diet.

Cholesterol?
Even if one cuts out all cholesterol containing animal products, if their body thinks it needs cholesterol in it, it will produce cholesterol itself.

Why would one's body think it needs cholesterol? Repair work.

Repair what? The inside of one's cardiovascular system.

Sounds weird doesn't it, that a thing that can trash the ability for one's cardiovascular system to function properly might be generated by one's own body in an attempt to repair it.

The real culprit is carbohydrates (starches and sugars).
They go into our blood as sugar. The more sugar in our blood, the more our body produces insulin.

Western medicine usually only measures the levels of sugar in blood. They don't usually measure the level of insulin.

You know how NTs seem to have a safety feature built into their senses where if sensory overload (sounds, lights, smells, tastes) builds up their senses start to turn down. They might not taste real pungent things as strongly as before or smell that obnoxious fabric softener on their clothing.

Well that's what happens inside one's body in regards to its reaction to sugars in its blood and insulin. If, over the years, insulin levels are at a consistently high level to deal with blood sugars in one's blood, at some point the receptors of insulin start turning themselves off.

Just before that happens a person might be diagnosed as hypoglycemic (low blood sugar). Thats a sign that they could be producing way too much insulin.

If that isn't corrected (usually by diet) then the receptors start turning off and the diagnosis name of that happening is called Type 2 diabetes.

Type 2 diabetes doesn't mean a person doesn't have insulin. It means the receptors for the insulin have turned off.
It doesn't matter how much insulin they have in their body. They just have no way to take it up and use it.

Insulin at high levels is very damaging to the inside of the cardiovascular system. Long before the insulin receptors start turning down then off, high levels of insulin can be sort of ripping up the inner walls of the cardiovascular system.

That damage is what one's body produces cholesterol to repair.

What to do to avoid that? Maintain a diet that tries to balance out the percentages of carbohydrates (starches and sugars) to lipids (fats) to proteins.

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One of the greatest benefits of a raw food diet, I think, is that the enzymes that are in foods haven't been destroyed by the heat of the cooking process.
Theoretically, those enzymes help us digest and assimilate the nutrition in foods better.

The theory follows that people might need less food to get the nutrition they need to stay healthy.

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To break down the cell walls of the technically raw foods I eat (and make their nutrients more accessible without destroying their enzymes) , I process a lot of the foods that I eat.

Most people use heat to break those cell walls but heat denatures the proteins enzymes consist of.

I have a food processor to chop them up
and a Vitamix (very powerful blender) to liquify them.

I sprout and sometimes ferment (rejuvelax) my grains.
I attempt to sprout all my nuts (I say "attempt" because they're slow to sprout and after a few days bacteria could start growing).
Some vegetables I marinate first to break down their cell walls for digestion.

All that sound like a lot of work. That's why I usually suggest people start slowly. First git rid of all the junk in their diet and replace it with a well balanced diet of supposedly health providing foods.

Next, start trying raw food recipes. Get a good blender and research some good recipes for "green smoothies". A green smoothy makes a good addition to anyone's diet.

The theory is, the better one feels, the more healthy foods they'll be encouraged to integrate into their diet.



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09 Dec 2009, 8:29 pm

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Also, health problems really only comes into play if you get vitamin D deficient, eat gourmet raw food, dried fruit or overat on citrus fruits.


Raw foodists become deficient typically in B12, D and DHA.


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But if raw food is so unhealthy, how come it is the only diet that has: Cured diabetes, cancer and many more diseases?


Any natural hygienist will tell you there are no cures. There is just removal of cause and self-healing. And the raw food diet isn't the only one that cures these diseases. Eliminating gluten can "cure" diabetes, cancer, ADD, depression, IBS, and a host of diseases processes. Low-carb, high-protein and fat diets do not call on insulin response, and this is the preferred diet for diabetics.

Ross Horne died of prostate cancer. Herbert Shelton died of Parkinson's. Vihara Youkta died of intestinal cancer. Dr. Robert Gross of pancreatic cancer and brain cancer. Dr. John J. Mega died from stomach cancer. R.J. Cheatham died of cancer of the colon. The listing of NH practitioners who have died of disease goes on and on.

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How come the native tribes in the southern hemisphere, who eat mostly raw food with a little bit of meat, are not often sick, do not have tooth decay, do not get malaria etc etc?


Which native tribes would those be? Have you read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration? The eskimos eat meat and fat and a few berries, and they were very healthy prior to sugar and refined flour. Tribes eating high carbs are healthy. In fact, just about any tribe living off it's native food and shunning sugar and refined flour is healthy. How about those Masai living off blood, meat and milk? No diabetes, heart disease or cancer there.

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09 Dec 2009, 8:40 pm

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Yeah, even though we evolved eating lots of fruit...


Where do you get the idea we evolved eating lots of fruit? Our ancestors millions of millions of years ago ate fruit. But the Neanderthal was a carnivore and the paleolithic diet was heavy on meat and some foraging.

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No, it dosen't give the immune system a rest, it gives the WHOLE body a rest.


The body never rests. It is always at work. When you rely on a fruit diet, your body must now catabolize protein and fat stores to make up for the lack of energy and nutrition. That's why raw foodists lose weight initially. Then metabolism slows, the body grows cold, and eventually you end up losing quite a bit of muscle.

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Like what? Fruit has the most vitamins per calories, it also has the second-most minerals per calories, while vegetables are the opposite. Fruit also has the perfect omega 3 to 6 ratio, and much more.


Fruit does contain high amounts of some nutrients, but since it is mostly water, you must consume large quantities to get your needed nutrients. Meanwhile, until your metabolism takes a dive, you are living off your own protein and fat. You can meet energy requirements with fruit, but you'll be eating all day, continually demanding work of the digestive apparatus.

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The design of our body is optimized for eating fruit, our intestines are simply too long for proper digestion of meat because it putrifies! And if you cook it, you denature the proteins, you harden the fat and thus make it toxic anyway.


Then why are the eskimos and the Masai so healthy?

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but could not "cure" autism, which after the age of 7 or so is almost certainly hard-wired.


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Not if autism is caused by improper brain functioning caused by heavy metal poisoning :)


Autism is caused by a great many things, gluten being one of them. There is no ONE thing that causes any disease.



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09 Dec 2009, 9:00 pm

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Also, gorillas eat LEAVES mostly, get it? The leaves they eat are full of protein, which explains their muscle mass, while humans are intended to be slim and athletic so we can run from fruit tree to fruit tree on the savannah.


Gorillas are hind-gut fermenters. Bacteria in their gut convert the cellulose to fatty acids. So the main nutrient in the gorilla diet is fatty acids.

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They haven't even explained how monkeys could even get meat: For one, they are slow walking and cannot run for more than 30-50 meters.


I'm new to the forum, so I can't post a link. But you can see a video of chimps hunting and tearing apart another monkey on YouTube. Search for "Chimps hunting a monkey," but don't watch if you're squeamish. The chimps eat the monkey alive.

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Another fact is that monkey, aswell as human, teeth are NOT designed to eat meat! We simply do not have the razor-sharp teeth that are required to eat raw meat...


I eat meat all the time, and I don't have razor-sharp teeth. And if you want to use that argument, have you seen the canines of the leaf-eating gorilla? They're frightening!

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Not to mention that they still haven't explained how meat is such a good source of calories: The usage of protein as an energy source is highly inefficient. not to mention it releases a lot of toxic substances, and if the body gets above like 40-50 grams of protein a day, it has to break it down to be used as energy.


When I ate fruit or a vegan diet, I had to eat several times a day and I still lost weight because I didn't get enough energy. But I can go an entire day on a steak. And there's nothing toxic in my steak. it's from pasture-raised beef, rich in omega-3s, healthy saturated fat, and nutrient-dense protein.



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09 Dec 2009, 9:02 pm

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Our ancestors who lived in Africa, which is mostly tropical/sub-tropical, had as much fruit as they wanted, except during a drought but then they ate roots and insects mostly or temporarily moved into the forests, and thus had no need to eat substandard foods like roots, small animals or other humans...


Actually, I believe they lived in the African savannah, which is mostly grassland and shrubs.



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13 Dec 2009, 9:26 pm

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They haven't even explained how monkeys could even get meat: For one, they are slow walking and cannot run for more than 30-50 meters.

Another fact is that monkey, aswell as human, teeth are NOT designed to eat meat! We simply do not have the razor-sharp teeth that are required to eat raw meat...


I just watched an episode of planet earth showing chimps in the rain forest. One group of chimps snuck up on another group feeding in the trees and ambushed it. They caught a young chimp from the rival group and ATE IT. So not only do they hunt meat, but they're cannibals as well.



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09 Feb 2010, 3:08 am

I've actually been thinking about incorporating raw/vegan foods into my diet recently.



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10 Feb 2010, 8:19 am

I read an article once, and found out that this Raw Food diet was once popular in Russia, of all places. It went through the same phase as the Atkins diet in the US. Which strikes me as very ironic, given the climate in most of the country and the fact that traditional Russian diet is heavily oriented towards meat, bread, soups, and root vegetables. Fruits and vegetables are abundant in May thru September, but somewhat hard to get during other months, so homemade canning, vitamin supplements, and sun lamps are quite popular. (Despite that, obesity is not a widespread problem in Russia, since many jobs involve manual labor and cities are pedestrian-friendly). People who got into that diet (going against the odds of a bad climate and cultural traditions) talked about it with the fervor not unlike that of PETA. As one would expect, a lot of backlash resulted. Some even accused America of "offloading their stupid diets overseas when they wouldn't work in their homeland". Over the years, the Raw Food diet never caught on in Russia, and remains isolated to niche interest groups who post extensively on the internet.