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Never mind, we can always compete against ourselves!~.~

Hated team sports and P.E. on the other hand, I love to watch toronto blue jay baseball. that is the extent of it.

So I suppose people like us who are not good in sports can be good fans. Well said!

i used hate playing sports , but i always loved watching hockey . At arround 16 tho my friend introduced me to mountain biking and after that i went for 3 hours everyday for the whole summer
, since then i bike everyday during summer (winter here is just snow everywhere)Also got introduced to going to gym at around 17 now i go 3-5 times a week i also play squash , and go skiing at least once a week during winter and surf when im near an ocean. I still love watching hockey and since seeing a soccer game in Barcelona started enjoying watching soccer.
I really think that anyone can enjoy sports they just have to find something they enjoy (i used to do absolutely no sports except in school till i was 16) and now im pretty active .

I don't like playing team sports at all, and enjoy watching them even less. I did go through a phase when I was young where I like raquetball (great way to vent frustrations!)

Nowadays the only "sports" I like are swimming, walking, and balance ball pilates.

I love playing goals, if theres only three or four people playing. I hate watching sports, and I hate playing most of them

I don't like sports of any kind. I don't like participating in them, I don't like talking about them, listening to conversations about them, etc. But I think what elevates sports from something I'm just not interested in, entertained by or impressed with is that the masses (in the U.S. especially) almost force the crap down my throat. And I'm not trying to single you out or attack you personally, RealTalk, but the attitude you display is exactly what I talking about. Sports and competition are not what define a man. What defines a man is a penis. That is it.
I hate the fact that I have to sit at my desk and listen to absolutely nothing but sports chatter from my co-workers. I hate that when I want to watch a TV show that was SCHEDULED to be on at a certain time, there is always a chance that a game that takes an hour to actually play has been allowed to run four hours long. I hate that pro-atheletes (and college, and high school, and middle school) seem to get away with a lot more than other people. Every week there seems to be some new scandal involving an athlete and they usually just get a slap on the wrist (or nothing at all). I hate that sports are the focus of most high schools in the midwest rather than EDUCATION. I frankly don't think schools should sponser sports at all, it is not their place nor their purpose and those funds could be put to better use. We're #1 in sports but something like #37 in education?? That is embarassing (again, just talking about the U.S.)

I LOVE sports! I like playing sports and watching sports and have since I was a little kid. I will literally drop anything I'm doing to join in a game, which is TOTALLY out of character for me. I never join in other things that would involve inter-action with other people. Sports is one of the few things that I feel comfortable in joining a group. Basketball, football, softball, tennis, volleyball, it really doesn't matter what (except soccer). Even though at my age I usually pay a price by not being able to move the next day, OUCH One of my favorite things to do is to go to my son's football games. I do hate the parents though that yell and scream at their kids. My son gets a high-five no matter how he performs that day.

I don't have limited motor skills, and I love team sports like football, basketball, edurance tests etc.

I'm an aspie, so why do I not have limited motor skills?

I don't think ALL aspies have limited motor skills. I certainly don't. I once spun a basketball on my finger for 37 minutes just to see how long I could do it. The tip of my finger got kinda hot though.

Only sport I like is nascar. I think its because its something I can relate to. It takes skill to drive a car in control at those speeds. I can't really relate to other sports. So a guy can throw a football 80 yards or a baseball 100 MPH. Big deal.
I think it goes back to when I tryed to get into a few colleges. They took the guy that could play football ahead of me. Even though I was the guy that would accually go to class and learn something. But they give a guy that will not go to the classes a free ride because of his skills with a football. Don't tell me student athletes don't get a free ride. My uncle used to teach at Notre Dame and he was told if he did not give the students that were in his class that were on the football team at least Bs, he would be fired.
Mike Vick murdered innoccent animals and got to play in the NFL again with a million dollsr contract. Great example set there by the NFL.
Sounds fair to me.

Drowbot0181 hit it on the head. I feel the same way.

Why is it that guys like RealTalk do not have a "live and let live" attitude towards those who dislike sports (or sports culture, rather) or simply have no interest in sports? Why are they always quick to denigrate those who don't share their views? Could this be a manifestation of insecurity on their part, or is it just plain bigotry?

I've been working on a bodybuilding program at a health club for the last two years. Thankfully, none of my former personal trainers think the way RealTalk does. If I become as strong as an ox, will I ever look down on nonathletic men, as RealTalk apparently does? No, because I will always be aware of the fact that there will always be men who are physically weaker, but are smarter or more courageous or spiritual than I am.

RealTalk, if you hate nerds so much, you should deprive yourself of all the modern comforts and conveniences (not to mention advances in the field of medicine) that have been invented or discovered by nerds. Of course, to do that, you'd have to go live in a village somewhere in the middle of Africa or in the Amazon.

You say that competition is the supreme value. Yes, there certainly is a place for competition in our society. Our system of free enterprise, which certainly is preferable to socialism, is based on competition. But when you say that competition is the supreme value, you are denying yourself other human values that may be even more important than competition; and you run the risk of turning out to be a loser in the long run, a morally deficient human being.

You say that sports define masculinity (as if all nonathletic boys and men are effeminate, which is a view that is widespread in the sports crowd), yet there have always been homosexual men participating in rough contact sports. Esera Tualo, who played for many years in the National Football League, came out of the closet when he retired three years ago. Another recent example is Brian Sims, who was the captain of the Bloomsburg University football team. No doubt there are others who understandably fear coming out of the closet.

Physical ruggedness is not a sure indication of sexual orientation. Over the 40 years since I graduated from high school, I've noticed that there is a range of "very rugged" to "not rugged" among both homosexual and heterosexual men. There are homosexual men who are very rugged; and there are heterosexual men who are slightly effeminate, but are happily married with children. A friend of mine who graduated from high school the same year I did recently told me that the biggest, strongest guy in his graduating class was definitely gay. My friend even saw him holding hands with another guy in one of the hallways at their high school. Given the stereotypical views that I had of homosexuals at that time, I would have been shocked and amazed at the sight.

Some of the greatest acts of courage have been driven by compassion, not competition. During the early 1960s when Jim Crow was still the law in the Deep South, there were college students who participated in civil rights marches, which were sometimes met with violence by segregationists. How many of these civil rights marchers were football players? Were any of them football players?

One of the greatest heroes of World War II was a Swedish businessman named Raoul Wallenberg, who saved the lives of thousands of Hungarian Jews from the German Nazis and their Hungarian fascist collaborators. He frequently put himself in danger trying to save the lives of these people. Several assassination attempts fortunately failed. When the Red Army drove the Germans out of Hungary, agents of Stalin's secret police abducted Wallenberg to the Soviet Union. Out of principle he refused to cooperate with his Communist captors and chose to spend the rest of his life and eventually die in the gulag instead of enjoying a measure of freedom in the Soviet Union. Wallenberg was an intellectual who detested competitive team sports. RealTalk, are you therefore going to claim that you're more of a man than Wallenberg was?

There are a number of perfectly understandable reasons why some people don't like sports, but you don't impress me as being the sort of person who tries to understand others who hold to a point of view that is different from your own. If you listened to what other people have to say, you would learn something.

Both KenM and Drowbot0181 hit it on the head.

The only sport I have ever enjoyed is yoga, because it's relaxing and non-competitive.

I hate PE class at school, because there is always a small percentage of over-competitive jerks (including the teacher, most of the time) who take the "game" way too seriously, and yell at me if I "make the team lose". But I'm in Year 10 now, so we got to choose whether to do full-course PE or just the short course, and as I have chosen the short course, I am in a class full of people who don't much care for PE either. So that should be a partial improvement.

I hate situations where there is loud noise, a lot of people around me, and especially when people running about shouting at each other (and at me) and coming too close to me. So basically, an average PE lesson.

Another of the many reasons I hate PE: when we play rounders, I never understand the rules, because every teacher I've ever had has used a slightly different version of the rules. I don't understand how everyone else manages to understand the rules but I don't.

There are perfectly understandable reasons why nonathletic students dislike and dread the traditional sports-centered approach to mandatory P.E.; but, unfortunately, way too many of those in the sports crowd don't care that this approach is clearly wrong. I've not been familiar with the state of P.E. in the United Kingdom, but I'm not surprised by what you say about your own P.E. experience.

I'm a 59-year-old American man who was forced to take P.E. from the time I was in the fourth grade through junior high. (Fortunately, since I was a band student, I wasn't required to take P.E. in high school, which was hellish for nonathletic boys.) Those who instituted mandatory P.E. in the schools claimed that they were concerned about children being physically unfit; but their real purpose was to promote sports, not physical fitness. In boy's P.E. the assumption seems to have been made that all boys were athletes. Nonathletic boys who had not developed any skills required in various sports such as basketball or baseball were never offered any opportunities to learn them. Their physical fitness needs were completely ignored. In all of my P.E. classes, I never heard any mention of any physical fitness program or even weightlifting! Instead, nonathletic boys were held up to ridicule; and they were frequently bullied. Is this the way to promote physical fitness? I recently learned that a former junior-high classmate of mine who was overweight had to see a clinical psychologist when he was in his early 20s to overcome the bitterness he felt over the way that he had been mistreated in his P.E. classes. And, by the way, being forced to take P.E. did not cause him to lose weight.

I've recently learned that even physically handicapped boys of my generation were required to take P.E.! This was a violation of common sense, not to mention being unjust. One of my friends suffered permanent injury to one of his knees in a car wreck when he was four years old. He could not run, and could walk only with a limp. Another friend of mine was born with a vision defect; he lacked depth perception. Both of them were still required to take P.E. anyway! You would think that they would have been exempted from having to take P.E.; but, no, they weren't. And both of them were bullied relentlessly by "jocks." None of their coaches cared. Considering that my friends had no control over their physical disabilities, you would think that these athletic classmates of theirs would have given them a pass; but no, they didn't. What is rather interesting is that these "jocks" were the only classsmates of theirs who bullied them. They were not bullied by anyone else in their classes. Only by the "jocks." Today neither one of them has any use for sports; and, not surprisingly, they're prejudiced against "jocks."

But those who have made a god out of competition to the total exclusion of kindness and consideration for others could care less about the indignities that nonathletic kids have been subjected to. Since sports is their religion, they mindlessly seek to impose sports upon nonathletic kids instead of encouraging them to get on some sort of exercise program that will actually get them in shape. Much of this mindset is based on anti-intellectualism; hence, the contempt and hostility directed against nerds.

I've been working on a bodybuilding program at a health club for about two years. What is rather hilarious is that I've gotten more exercise in a single workout session with a physical trainer than I ever did in a single YEAR of junior-high P.E., and I'm NOT exaggerating. The only thing that I and many other nonathletic boys of my generation ever learned from P.E. was to fear coaches and athlete classmates.

In the United States there is a movement to reform P.E. The best such program I've heard of is PE4Life, which was developed by Coach Phil Lawler (now retired). This program does not force competitive team sports upon nonathletic kids who aren't even interested in them, but actually gives them a choice of noncompetitive exercise alternatives. (Anyone who is on an exercise program is competing only against himself, which is the most effective way to get in shape.) I read an article about one school district where this program was set up. The incidence of bullying actually went down. Instead of keeping to themselves in cliques, "jocks" and "techies" actually started socializing with one another. I believe that the traditional sports-centered P.E. classes should be available as an ELECTIVE for the athletic kids and others who want to participate in sports. If P.E. is to be mandatory for nonathletic students, use a program such as PE4Life that actually works. Otherwise, leave the nonathletic kids alone!

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I agree there should probably be 2 choices given to students today for PE classes. A class that focuses more on aerobic exercise with some weight training and a more "traditional" PE class for those who like competitive sports. Myself, I loved PE and couldn't wait to get to that class. I would actually get a pass from study hall so that I could have PE twice a day.

Every school day when I was in junior high, I dreaded the period when I had P.E. Each day when I went to the gym, I wondered how I would be humiliated and then ignored by the coach. Even though it's been over 40 years, I still remember which period I had P.E. because it was that bad. Today I really enjoy working out at my health club, but I remain unalterably opposed to nonathletic kids being subjected to the sort of indignities that were the typical experience for nonathletes of my generation.