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Mackica
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06 Jun 2011, 7:32 pm

I haven't tried melatonin..I have tried Valerian..DO NOT TRY IT! It's horrible! sure it makes you tired...for so long that it's a serious hazard! I was exhausted for 14 hours,then I got TERRIBLE side affects, nausea,fever,exhaustion,dizziness...it shouldn't be allowed to be sold! Seriously!
take a long walk,drink warm almond milk with honey,have a banana,a hot bath with lavender oil..anything but Valerian! :x 8O



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06 Jun 2011, 8:27 pm

Mackica wrote:
I haven't tried melatonin..I have tried Valerian..DO NOT TRY IT! It's horrible! sure it makes you tired...for so long that it's a serious hazard! I was exhausted for 14 hours,then I got TERRIBLE side affects, nausea,fever,exhaustion,dizziness...it shouldn't be allowed to be sold! Seriously!
take a long walk,drink warm almond milk with honey,have a banana,a hot bath with lavender oil..anything but Valerian! :x 8O

I'd suppose that's an allergic reaction, most people do not have anything like that to report. Then again I know what its like to deal with the side effects of the wrong stuff - I was kept on antipsychotics and antidepressants for 8 years, they were the worst things for me, I pretty much lost my teen years and could easily be in assisted living if I hadn't had a few bright friends armed with online studies and papers to talk me into quitting them.

Suffice to say things work differently for everyone and, if you realize something doesn't set right with your physiology (like Phosphatidylserine causes me serious breathing problems which is incredibly inconvenient considering I really like what its supposed to do), trust what you're feeling and discontinue it. Similarly if what works for you yields a bad reaction for someone else, they should do the same.


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09 Jun 2011, 9:57 am

stay away from this stuff. It is not good for you. Look into eating properly before bed time to down play the stress/awakening hormones. Adrenaline for example, is a awakening hormone.


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09 Jun 2011, 7:23 pm

sealion wrote:
stay away from this stuff. It is not good for you. Look into eating properly before bed time to down play the stress/awakening hormones. Adrenaline for example, is a awakening hormone.

Tried all of that - nothing else has ever worked in my lifetime thus far. Perhaps better replacing a hormone than living a life of 5 hours of sleep on average though right? If the body's not taking damage from neurotransmitter supplements its taking considerably worse damage from chronic insomnia.

I suppose this is like the glasses or no glasses argument for vision though. If you have a little bit of blur and its not interferring with your life in a practical way yet, don't see the doctor. When it does get there though, probably better to just get the glasses - even if they do reset vision to a ratio even less accurate and speed vision decay. In a sense we're raising into the dirt anyway, chasing the perfect way forward in that sense too obsessively seems like misdirected effort, a nervous habit perhaps more than anything. By the time we would have to worry about something like that, ie. when aging is finally arrested by medical science (if that should happen in our lifetimes), I'm sure we'll have a way to fix everything else anyway.


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10 Jun 2011, 5:17 am

sealion wrote:
stay away from this stuff. It is not good for you. Look into eating properly before bed time to down play the stress/awakening hormones. Adrenaline for example, is a awakening hormone.


Wanna provide some nutritional advice that would promote good sleep? I'm all ears.


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10 Jun 2011, 5:43 pm

Depends on what you like to eat :wink: something like a hard boiled egg and a fruit would be great. This combo has the proteins, carbs, fat you would need. Try to also cook the egg shell to as the shell has alot of calcium which together with the egg will further down play the stress hormones in your body and let you have a nice sleep.


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11 Jun 2011, 4:01 am

Butter beans! They contain natural melatonin... knock me out good... Plus I love what they do to my skin...