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21 Jun 2012, 2:59 pm

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It's not fair that a majority of people have access and over consume on certain dishes while the rest of the world lives on staple foods such as rice albeit perfectly healthy. It makes more sense economically - why can't North Americans live on staples? The rest of the world had to do it - and still does it. Look how fit the Russians were and the people in Berlin who had to ration their food during the Cold War - and how fit the rest of the developing nations are. Sure - they don't eat much - but that's the whole point.


The rest of the world- with the exception of people who are in fact starving because they live in an area of extreme poverty or political instability- eats a diet more balanced than yours. They add the fruits or more likely the vegetables that are available in their area. It won't be a lot and it will often be something unpalatable to the western palate, but it will be some plant beyond just the peanut they are eating.



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21 Jun 2012, 5:22 pm

Everyone replying needs to calm down. Im eating bananas and celery right now. Problem Solved.



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21 Jun 2012, 5:30 pm

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Everyone replying needs to calm down. Im eating bananas and celery right now. Problem Solved.


You're the one suggesting everyone in USA make their diet like yours. That and nationalized grocery stores like the USSR.



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21 Jun 2012, 5:32 pm

Celery is a good bet. It's cheap and it has little calories and is quite filling if you eat a lot. You can binge on it without worrying about the calories. Season it so it isn't so bland. Put lemon and pepper seasoning it.



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21 Jun 2012, 5:46 pm

My youngest son wont eat anything unless its red, brown or orange. That means red sauce, meat or cheese. He's hugely into pasta. You cannot get fruit into him for anything, or vegetables other than tomatoes, onions and garlic. He eats any kind of meat, except veal (he only THINKS he doesn't eat veal, it goes in meatballs and meatloaf, I just stay quiet about it) and he also eats any kind of cheese except parmesean. He likes to grate fresh romano on his stuff instead.He's like 6-3 180 or something like that.

Also, he puts ranch on everything. Everything. Eggs, pancakes, fries, cake.


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21 Jun 2012, 6:42 pm

I can't eat a meal that isn't mostly meat. I tried once but it quite literally drove me insane.



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21 Jun 2012, 6:52 pm

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I eat nothing but peanut butter toast, cereal, eggs and oatmeal and I save a fortune. On top of that I keep in shape. My muscle recovery is fine - I'm growing. I drink protein (water) at the gym during my workouts. Everything in terms of growth and body fat reduction are going splendidly. On top of that, again, I am saving a fortune on groceries.


Why can't everyone live like this? I eat one egg at lunch with a package of oatmeal, a bowl of cereal in the morning and a piece of raisin toast with peanut butter for dinner. Sometimes I'll have a can of tuna, a whole can.


Sounds like I get about as many calories in my breakfast as you get through out your whole day

edit: Possibly more calories even. (I am skinny)


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21 Jun 2012, 8:09 pm

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WhiteWidow wrote:
I eat nothing but peanut butter toast, cereal, eggs and oatmeal and I save a fortune. On top of that I keep in shape. My muscle recovery is fine - I'm growing. I drink protein (water) at the gym during my workouts. Everything in terms of growth and body fat reduction are going splendidly. On top of that, again, I am saving a fortune on groceries.


Why can't everyone live like this? I eat one egg at lunch with a package of oatmeal, a bowl of cereal in the morning and a piece of raisin toast with peanut butter for dinner. Sometimes I'll have a can of tuna, a whole can.


Sounds like I get about as many calories in my breakfast as you get through out your whole day

edit: Possibly more calories even. (I am skinny)


Ha! I had 4 strips of bacon, 6 eggs and a cup of cheese for breakfast. 1578 Calories altogether. And this way of eating helped me to lose 140lbs.



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21 Jun 2012, 8:18 pm

Wow man! That's a lot of saturated fat. The eggs by themselves are okay but eating that way over a prolonged period of time is very bad for your arteries. Why not stick to low fat meat and cheese?



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21 Jun 2012, 8:35 pm

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Wow man! That's a lot of saturated fat. The eggs by themselves are okay but eating that way over a prolonged period of time is very bad for your arteries. Why not stick to low fat meat and cheese?


Nobody's proved conclusively that saturated fat really even affects your arteries.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturate ... z1ySzVDBWy Evolutionarily, our bodies are accustomed to saturated fat. It's really the only natural source of fat we can get, unless we find things with omega 3s and monounsaturated fats, ie, olives, avocados, seeds, etc. But polyunsaturated fats, where the majority of our fats come from now in our diet, is quite unnatural. For soybean oil, for example, right, to get oil out of soybeans, you need solvents, or lots of pressure, etc. You cannot naturally extract a lot of oil from soybeans and corn, it's just not possible. But yeah, your body actually needs sat fats to build cells. Same with cholesterol, it's demonized so much, but your body actually needs the stuff to repair cells and create hormones.

That said, people's metabolisms and bodies are different. Some people genetically are adapted to eat lots of saturated fat, lots of meat, etc, and others aren't. It gets more complicated between the sexes, too, men need different nutrients than women.



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21 Jun 2012, 9:14 pm

Yes, bodies need a small amount of fat to perform certain metabolic functions but diets high in saturated fats are linked to heart disease. Hydrogenated fats are equally as bad because hydrogenated fats exist in these big blobs much like saturated fats do. These blobs collect in arteries over time. Olive oil is a good choice for cooking oil. Fish is a good source of protein.

I go with what the American Heart Association advises.



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21 Jun 2012, 10:32 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Yes, bodies need a small amount of fat to perform certain metabolic functions but diets high in saturated fats are linked to heart disease. Hydrogenated fats are equally as bad because hydrogenated fats exist in these big blobs much like saturated fats do. These blobs collect in arteries over time. Olive oil is a good choice for cooking oil. Fish is a good source of protein.

I go with what the American Heart Association advises.


Diets high in saturated fat aer also linked to lower martality rates overall. So really, being more likely to die of a heart attack is a great choice when it makes you less likely to die at all. Plus 1000knives is right about there being no actual proof.



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21 Jun 2012, 10:34 pm

Dauthrsbane wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Yes, bodies need a small amount of fat to perform certain metabolic functions but diets high in saturated fats are linked to heart disease. Hydrogenated fats are equally as bad because hydrogenated fats exist in these big blobs much like saturated fats do. These blobs collect in arteries over time. Olive oil is a good choice for cooking oil. Fish is a good source of protein.

I go with what the American Heart Association advises.


Diets high in saturated fat aer also linked to lower martality rates overall. So really, being more likely to die of a heart attack is a great choice when it makes you less likely to die at all. Plus 1000knives is right about there being no actual proof.

I will stick with what the American Heart Association says about it.



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21 Jun 2012, 10:47 pm

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I go with what the American Heart Association advises.


Case and point.



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21 Jun 2012, 10:51 pm

WhiteWidow wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I go with what the American Heart Association advises.


Case and point.


And what point would that be? I'm honestly not sure which side you're on.



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21 Jun 2012, 10:56 pm

Dauthrsbane wrote:
WhiteWidow wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I go with what the American Heart Association advises.


Case and point.


And what point would that be? I'm honestly not sure which side you're on.
Lol that is what I thought


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