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02 Sep 2012, 6:43 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I get fat from soy beans, chickpeas and occasional chicken and salmon and that's all I need. I used to eat a lot of almonds (because I heard they were good for people.) Actually, they were so good, I would eat too many. I also put olive oil into chili whenever I made it because of similar information about it. Avocados were a super food, so I thought, so they must be okay. All these foods were injecting way too much fat in my diet. I eat really low fat and try to be vegan as much as possible though I am not all the time and admit, I feel much better physically with the low fat. No more shortness of breath. It felt like adrenaline was coursing through my torso and it made really nervous when it happened because I didn't know what it meant. I just knew it cannot be good. It also happened after I ate cheese made with whole milk, so I stopped eating that. I no longer drink milk, not even two percent or one. Anyway, after cutting these foods out, and the excess oils, the feeling went away.

Now I stick to low fat soy in small quantities, like, just enough to moisten cereal and I have a cake recipe made with flax seed as an egg replacement and whole wheat flour that I like. I can eat a piece, immediately not crave any more and no tired feeling from too many carbohydrates. Instead I have some energy.

Oh btw, OP, Chickpeas are really good in a mostly vegan diet. I have a food processor and make my own hummus with Chickpeas, a little water and a little Tamari. Find low sodium if you can. Put them all in the processor and process until smooth. If it is too thick, add a little more water. It is blander than the kind you find at the grocery store but you can make it the way you want in the processor. If find it very filling when added to other ingredients, like sandwiches and whatnot. You can also eat it with veggies. Works well with chopped green onions on top. If it is really bland, which it might be if you do not use a lot of Tamari, you can sprinkle salt on some before eating. If you buy regular Tamari, watch how much you put in because it's very high sodium.


Grocery store hummus is way blander than mine. Plus it uses soybean oil and not olive oil. Bleh. I usually add like 4 big cloves of garlic to mine, a bit of cumin, and some basil, and a lot of olive oil. Oddly enough I don't like it with lots of lemon juice. I've heard (but not tried, though this makes obvious sense) that if you wanna make hummus as smooth as at the grocery store, go to an Indian market and buy chickpea flour, then just add water and mix your ingredients in. Canned chickpeas make an OK hummus that's easy, but I find dried beans soaked then cooked for a long time make a better more creamier hummus, as the beans are softer from cooking a long time. Also, I don't add water to the hummus usually, I try to use the water from the can, as it's already salted.



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02 Sep 2012, 7:02 pm

I should make my hummus like that only without oil. The canned chickpeas make a tolerable hummus but I might try the dry. It won't matter if the chickpeas crack when being cooked if they are just going to end up in the food processor. My hummus is way too bland. Besides that it's okay. I bought some green onions to go with it hoping it would help give it some flavor. But I need to add some spices too. There's a mix at the grocery store that uses the chickpea flour but it has a lot of sodium added. I have tried it before. It's pretty good but too much salt.



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02 Sep 2012, 7:28 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I should make my hummus like that only without oil. The canned chickpeas make a tolerable hummus but I might try the dry. It won't matter if the chickpeas crack when being cooked if they are just going to end up in the food processor. My hummus is way too bland. Besides that it's okay. I bought some green onions to go with it hoping it would help give it some flavor. But I need to add some spices too. There's a mix at the grocery store that uses the chickpea flour but it has a lot of sodium added. I have tried it before. It's pretty good but too much salt.


Garlic is about all you need spicewise. The rest are optional. I just like basil and a little cumin. Salt you can use however. Tahini and olive oil obviously make it taste awesome, but if you're gonna cut on those, and want a tarter hummus, add more lemon juice. I notice sabra/etc is tarter in this way (probably from just adding citric acid directly.) Hummus is basically, for 99% of recipes:
Chickpeas
Garlic
Tahini
Olive Oil
Salt
Water
Lemon juice
The rest of your spicing is optional, but I find I like it with basil, usually cumin, and sometimes chili powder.



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02 Sep 2012, 8:17 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
MindFreeza wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The canned tuna is economical as well. Avoid nuts. They are not healthy, despite what the media says. They contain too much fat to be healthy. Same with avocados and olive oil. Anything with a lot of fat is not a healthy choice and definitely not a super food.


I am afraid I must respectfully disagree with you Ana. A good amount of fat in the diet is crucial for a variety of reasons. First of all, most of the central nervous system is made of fat. Every neuron in the entire body is insulated by a sheath of pure lipid called myelin. A deficiency in lipids can have a devestating effect on executive functioning (including attention, mood, stress management, etc), as well as fine motor control. Many, if not most, of the negative effects of lipid deficiency would be particularly worrisome for an Aspergian.

Furthermore, your assertion that you get enough fat from "normal foods" is odd considering the fact that the OP posted specifically because he does not eat "normal foods".

That post wasn't directed at the OP. Do you realize how much fat is in Soy milk, especially the regular kind. There's plenty of fat in it.

All I can say is, I cut all the food high in fats out of my diet and I also stopped adding olive oil. I no longer eat coconuts or nuts in general and I feel a lot better because of it. No more shortness of breath. Coconut is very high in fat btw, so are olives.


Ana, I do not want to seem like I am attacking you personally so this will be my last response to your posts. To put it simply, you are arguing from ignorance. Soy milk does not have a high fat content. Even the "regular"(?) kind. If eating a diet low in fat works for you then keep it up. But you are obviously not an expert in nutrition even though you play one on the internet. I am a culinary school graduate and have over twelve years' experience in the food service industry. I have worked closely with professional nutritionists to design and implement menus in locations including a senior residence (with attached ICU and acute care facilities) and a vegan dining hall on the campus of a SUNY college. My response was directed toward the OP because, well......, he is the OP!! ! And my (yes, professional!) opinion is that his lethargy might be the result of either direct lipid deficiency or B-group deficiency, or perhaps both.


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02 Sep 2012, 8:38 pm

MindFreeza wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
MindFreeza wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The canned tuna is economical as well. Avoid nuts. They are not healthy, despite what the media says. They contain too much fat to be healthy. Same with avocados and olive oil. Anything with a lot of fat is not a healthy choice and definitely not a super food.


I am afraid I must respectfully disagree with you Ana. A good amount of fat in the diet is crucial for a variety of reasons. First of all, most of the central nervous system is made of fat. Every neuron in the entire body is insulated by a sheath of pure lipid called myelin. A deficiency in lipids can have a devestating effect on executive functioning (including attention, mood, stress management, etc), as well as fine motor control. Many, if not most, of the negative effects of lipid deficiency would be particularly worrisome for an Aspergian.

Furthermore, your assertion that you get enough fat from "normal foods" is odd considering the fact that the OP posted specifically because he does not eat "normal foods".

That post wasn't directed at the OP. Do you realize how much fat is in Soy milk, especially the regular kind. There's plenty of fat in it.

All I can say is, I cut all the food high in fats out of my diet and I also stopped adding olive oil. I no longer eat coconuts or nuts in general and I feel a lot better because of it. No more shortness of breath. Coconut is very high in fat btw, so are olives.


Ana, I do not want to seem like I am attacking you personally so this will be my last response to your posts. To put it simply, you are arguing from ignorance. Soy milk does not have a high fat content. Even the "regular"(?) kind. If eating a diet low in fat works for you then keep it up. But you are obviously not an expert in nutrition even though you play one on the internet. I am a culinary school graduate and have over twelve years' experience in the food service industry. I have worked closely with professional nutritionists to design and implement menus in locations including a senior residence (with attached ICU and acute care facilities) and a vegan dining hall on the campus of a SUNY college. My response was directed toward the OP because, well......, he is the OP!! ! And my (yes, professional!) opinion is that his lethargy might be the result of either direct lipid deficiency or B-group deficiency, or perhaps both.

Mindfreeza, I know there are people who like to defend fat and oil in the diet just like there are people who like to defend animal and dairy products. If it's true that Soy milk is low fat, then why make a light version? When buying Soymilk, just buy the "light" variety. Nutritionists recommend buying the light variety if it means overall fat reduction, like milk or yogurt, for example, or salad dressing. Same with Soy milk. It is not ignorance. If you want to defend a diet with more fat, go ahead but there is no point in arguing with me because I will not recommend a diet with excess fat to anyone and will always advise they go with the lowest fat option available.



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02 Sep 2012, 9:23 pm

Mindfreeza,
1. I am a she, I have stated this previously in the thread.

2. I said I'm TOO LAZY TO COOK, but have no trouble working out... that sounds like lethargy? I cook everyday for other people, if that's the marker of normal levels of energy.

Gah, I'm full of energy, all the time, I just hate cooking when I know I'm the only one who is going to eat the food.

I appreciate your input but I have no problems with lethargy. And I don't think anyone in this thread is a nutritionist.

I've tried eating a diet higher in fat and that seemed to cause lethargy. Maybe it's an aspie thing, some people on here have weird diets that seem to work for them... that's why I came here to ask about it. Professional advice has rarely done any good for me.

I think I'm going to try making hummus though!



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02 Sep 2012, 11:07 pm

meems wrote:
Mindfreeza,
1. I am a she, I have stated this previously in the thread.

2. I said I'm TOO LAZY TO COOK, but have no trouble working out... that sounds like lethargy? I cook everyday for other people, if that's the marker of normal levels of energy.

Gah, I'm full of energy, all the time, I just hate cooking when I know I'm the only one who is going to eat the food.

I appreciate your input but I have no problems with lethargy. And I don't think anyone in this thread is a nutritionist.

I've tried eating a diet higher in fat and that seemed to cause lethargy. Maybe it's an aspie thing, some people on here have weird diets that seem to work for them... that's why I came here to ask about it. Professional advice has rarely done any good for me.

I think I'm going to try making hummus though!


Yeah, it's sorta a scam to buy it premade, I think.

And yep on the weird diets.

One other possible thing to try is crockpots. You could just have a crockpot going of whatever that you start the night before, then eat it throughout the day. Could also get a rice cooker for that reason, too.



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03 Sep 2012, 12:38 am

I have a crock pot someone gave me when I moved into my house but I've never used it.

I'm not even sure what I can do with it! I should look up some recipes.



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03 Sep 2012, 3:35 pm

Are you opposed to canned beans? This vegetarian chilli recipe can introduce a variety of good foods into your diet.

And hummus is awesome with a ton of garlic!



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04 Sep 2012, 5:28 pm

I have a jar full of minced garlic that I keep in the fridge. I might put a half cup of it into the processor next time I make hummus.



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04 Sep 2012, 6:37 pm

Nuts and beans, most definitely.
Also, tofu, seitan, or quorn.

I love my crock pot- I just pack a bunch of veggies in it and turn it on high overnight.
Voila- a day's worth of food.


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04 Sep 2012, 6:43 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
If it's true that Soy milk is low fat, then why make a light version?

Because being "low fat" as compared to other milks (dairy, for instance)
is a far cry from being low fat in general.


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06 Sep 2012, 1:30 am

I'm going to try the canned salmon or something like that and canned beans. I didn't realize how inexpensive they are! I usually load up on whatever produce is on sale and eat that. I could make all sorts of stuff with beans/fish etc.



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06 Sep 2012, 2:47 am

meems wrote:
I'm going to try the canned salmon or something like that and canned beans. I didn't realize how inexpensive they are! I usually load up on whatever produce is on sale and eat that. I could make all sorts of stuff with beans/fish etc.

I like the red salmon. It's great, but costly.



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20 Sep 2012, 6:14 am

Well after reading this reviews I will surely want to give that try.