Stereotypes of "health-conscious" women.

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05 Sep 2012, 9:10 pm

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I kinda figure how anorexia works into this, but...not exactly sure.


Because they are obsessed with being "slim" and having the perfect body.



...Yeah, that's what I was saying, is that women are extremely concerned about aesthetics

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05 Sep 2012, 9:33 pm

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Why is there so much emphasis on weight-lifting? I'd rather do cardio every day without using gym equipment than commit myself to lifting as much weights as I can. It's unrealistic for me to travel to a gym every day.


Lifting burns more calories and contributes more to an esthetically nice physique than does cardio.


So if women who don't lift much weights want to be aesthetically pleasing, and lifting weights shapes your physique, then what is the point of this thread?



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05 Sep 2012, 9:37 pm

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Why is there so much emphasis on weight-lifting? I'd rather do cardio every day without using gym equipment than commit myself to lifting as much weights as I can. It's unrealistic for me to travel to a gym every day.


Lifting burns more calories and contributes more to an esthetically nice physique than does cardio.


So if women who don't lift much weights want to be aesthetically pleasing, and lifting weights shapes your physique, then what is the point of this thread?


Women are doing things inefficiently by nature of being women.

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To be fair most men are being just as inefficient. It's sorta a matter of not wanting to do "manly" or "girly" exercises. IE, if men took up gymnastics as teenagers, they'd be ripped as all hell, but most men don't.



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05 Sep 2012, 10:38 pm

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So what you're saying is that you know nothing about anorexia.


Or fat women obsessed with losing weight.

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05 Sep 2012, 10:40 pm

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Women are doing things inefficiently by nature of being women.



Projecting subjective ideals onto others and concluding on their basis that an entire sex is "inefficient".


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05 Sep 2012, 10:42 pm

MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
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I kinda figure how anorexia works into this, but...not exactly sure.


Because they are obsessed with being "slim" and having the perfect body.



...Yeah, that's what I was saying, is that women are extremely concerned about aesthetics


Not all women. This is also a delicate subject you're peeking into.


For sure. Throwing around mental illnesses (with an actual documented death rate) willy-nilly is pretty impressive, as-is equivocation between it and vanity.


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06 Sep 2012, 5:39 am

1000Knives wrote:
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Why is there so much emphasis on weight-lifting? I'd rather do cardio every day without using gym equipment than commit myself to lifting as much weights as I can. It's unrealistic for me to travel to a gym every day.


Lifting burns more calories and contributes more to an esthetically nice physique than does cardio.


So if women who don't lift much weights want to be aesthetically pleasing, and lifting weights shapes your physique, then what is the point of this thread?


Women are doing things inefficiently by nature of being women.

EDIT:
To be fair most men are being just as inefficient. It's sorta a matter of not wanting to do "manly" or "girly" exercises. IE, if men took up gymnastics as teenagers, they'd be ripped as all hell, but most men don't.


There's also the matter of men who hit evey muscle from four angles with a two-digit number of isolation exercises, but I'd say that "f.ckarounditis" is more prevalent in female gym goers than male gym goers. Most girls seem to think that lifting more than 5 lbs will give them big, blocky Chyna muscles.



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06 Sep 2012, 6:06 am

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Yuck.

And that website is yuck too, "brah".



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06 Sep 2012, 12:49 pm

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There's also the matter of men who hit evey muscle from four angles with a two-digit number of isolation exercises, but I'd say that "f.ckarounditis" is more prevalent in female gym goers than male gym goers. Most girls seem to think that lifting more than 5 lbs will give them big, blocky Chyna muscles.


There is always "that dude" you know, the "curling in the squat rack", "8 bicep curl variations with just the bar" and "flexing in front of the mirrors after every set", yes that dude. But, I see relatively few of them compared to hte number of women who spend 45 minutes reading magazines on cardio machines, blabbing on their cell phones or doing some form of idiotic looking "stretching" right in front of the squat rack.



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06 Sep 2012, 2:23 pm

TM wrote:
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There's also the matter of men who hit evey muscle from four angles with a two-digit number of isolation exercises, but I'd say that "f.ckarounditis" is more prevalent in female gym goers than male gym goers. Most girls seem to think that lifting more than 5 lbs will give them big, blocky Chyna muscles.


There is always "that dude" you know, the "curling in the squat rack", "8 bicep curl variations with just the bar" and "flexing in front of the mirrors after every set", yes that dude. But, I see relatively few of them compared to hte number of women who spend 45 minutes reading magazines on cardio machines, blabbing on their cell phones or doing some form of idiotic looking "stretching" right in front of the squat rack.


It was like that at my old gym, though I might have just noticed the women more because they make me more uncomfortable in general. But I saw ungodly numbers of men and women "f*cking around". True, my gym had a low monthly fee compared to others ("average joe/jane" type business model) but still...some people seemed to be paying for an avenue to strut.


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06 Sep 2012, 4:21 pm

Anorexia has the highest death rate of any mental illness.

Wanting to be slim and becoming obsessed with physical appearance is a SYMPTOM of anorexia nervosa. Not the other way around. It hardly has anything to do with wanting to be slim, it's just the most obvious symptom. A large number of anorexics don't die because they want to be perfect, they die because they have a mental illness.

Increasing numbers of men are seeking treatment for anorexia nervosa. It's very difficult for men to step forward and talk about it when it's considered a female problem.

As for exercise etc. and fitness, it doesn't give me an hourglass figure or make my boobs expand, it does the opposite. I don't care though. I've put on some weight recently and been complimented on both my boobs and my ass, which seems so strange to me. I've been able to start exercising again now that I'm physically recovered from injuries but not too hard obviously. Now people are already saying I shouldn't, so that I'll stay this shape/size.

It makes me want to vomit to have people tell me what they think my body should look like. I don't even think that way about other people. I honestly am starting to feel hostile when men ask why I'm "so concerned" with my appearance and then proceed to express their concern with how pleased they are with my appearance.

As if that's why I exercise, or why I don't eat sweets.



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06 Sep 2012, 5:18 pm

Kurgan wrote:

There's also the matter of men who hit evey muscle from four angles with a two-digit number of isolation exercises, but I'd say that "f.ckarounditis" is more prevalent in female gym goers than male gym goers. Most girls seem to think that lifting more than 5 lbs will give them big, blocky Chyna muscles.


I love lifting weights, but I am quite fat. I would have less inclination to lift weights if I was calorie restricting. I'm only really concerned with being strong and fit, though.

I go to a ghetto gym and there aren't many women f*****g around there. Just lots of guys who aren't using the weight machines properly (and the occasional girl). People generally use the cardio machines properly.


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06 Sep 2012, 5:57 pm

I actually have a female high school friend who lifts heavy barbells for fun. She and another female represented the weight-lifting club in university.



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06 Sep 2012, 6:17 pm

I find it funny, Am not a big lad I only weight 10st. I love going to my gym for it's always busy yet am the only one who uses the Squat rack, There's me Squating/Over head pressing at my lesure between my sets I look about and there's a personal trainer teaching a bunch of over weight older women, Kudos to them for wanting to get fit.

But the trainer makes them do stuff with 2kg-5 kg weights. Every. single.day. No weight change the exericises is things like, holding your arms out to the side with the weights and raising yourself with your toes ect, Medicine ball mumbo jumbo and leg raises. . . It's like. . . she is picking the slowest and most comfortable way for the women to get results so they can get more money from lessons.

Then you have the male personal trainers, There's a lad one of the customers he is paying for these lessons every weekday. I was talking to him he has been doing the lessons for a year now, Twice my build(but different body type so I was always going to be smaller and more lean.)). I've been lifting for about. . . 5 months now, to his year of personal bodybuilding training. Am lifting the same weights as him.

It's not just ladys who're getting their heads filled with crap and f*****g about at the gym, Sadly the "Pump" will make any one bite their shite thinking it's a result.

As for reasons into getting into fitness. Eh, The Majority of people are doing it for the looks, Women it's the hourglass men it's the Gorilla chest and arms.


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06 Sep 2012, 7:38 pm

meems wrote:
Anorexia has the highest death rate of any mental illness.

Wanting to be slim and becoming obsessed with physical appearance is a SYMPTOM of anorexia nervosa. Not the other way around. It hardly has anything to do with wanting to be slim, it's just the most obvious symptom. A large number of anorexics don't die because they want to be perfect, they die because they have a mental illness.

Increasing numbers of men are seeking treatment for anorexia nervosa. It's very difficult for men to step forward and talk about it when it's considered a female problem.

As for exercise etc. and fitness, it doesn't give me an hourglass figure or make my boobs expand, it does the opposite. I don't care though. I've put on some weight recently and been complimented on both my boobs and my ass, which seems so strange to me. I've been able to start exercising again now that I'm physically recovered from injuries but not too hard obviously. Now people are already saying I shouldn't, so that I'll stay this shape/size.

It makes me want to vomit to have people tell me what they think my body should look like. I don't even think that way about other people. I honestly am starting to feel hostile when men ask why I'm "so concerned" with my appearance and then proceed to express their concern with how pleased they are with my appearance.

As if that's why I exercise, or why I don't eat sweets.


All of it, but this in particular. x 1000.



Sweets for me are like a drug.
Boyfriend: "Can't you have just one?"
Me: "No. No, I really can't, anymore than some people can have 'just one hit' of cocaine or 'just one beer'. Nope. Staying away."


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07 Sep 2012, 1:56 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:

All of it, but this in particular. x 1000.



Sweets for me are like a drug.
Boyfriend: "Can't you have just one?"
Me: "No. No, I really can't, anymore than some people can have 'just one hit' of cocaine or 'just one beer'. Nope. Staying away."


One of the strange differences I've noticed between the genders is that a lot of women seem to have "love affairs" with certain foods. I used to be a really really fat guy, and while I still enjoy sweets, pastries and so on, I don't crave them, unless I do some crazy, vegan or low calorie diet. The women I've spoken to about low carb, high fat diets seem to be more attached to their carbs than men.

I had one of my female colleagues ask me what diet I'm on since I've dropped 30 lbs in about 2 months, and while she's been the same weight on her low calorie/vegetable heavy diet, and when I told her she just didn't want to give up her carbs.