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13 Jul 2013, 9:53 pm

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Low carb, high-protein diets are the way to go!

Eat frequent small portions and make sure to keep yourself as hydrated as possible.

There you go. The perfect diet.


Unless you do anything athletic.



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13 Jul 2013, 9:58 pm

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Okay, so I stuck to the plan up until lunchtime. I realized the soup I ate had white noodles, and then I had two mini muffins, and a sandwich on white bread :oops: . Sometimes when I try to watch what I eat, I only stick to it in the morning...it's just that my self-control wears off as the day goes on. I know what the problem was...I was on a hike, my dad brought snacks, and all he brought were snacks I can't eat. But I was so hungry...I couldn't wait until I got home, so I gave in and had mini muffins. Otherwise, I would have just gotten back on track even though I had the soup, but I guess when I cheated more than once, I got sucked in and kept eating like that for the rest of the day. Next time I go on a hike, I'll bring my own snacks. And I can't just tell myself to wait out my hunger, since I'm hypoglycemic.

I packed non-perishable healthy snacks (whole-grain rice cakes, almonds) in a purse for whenever I have to leave the house. Because if I get hungry and I don't have food with me, healthy snacks can be hard to find...welcome to America! I mean, if you go to the mall, all they have to snack on are Auntie Anne's pretzels. I heard a rumor that those things have 800 calories! And even if someone else brings snacks, like today, chances are they'll be bringing something I can't eat--unless they're health nuts. What do u guys think of the "toting healthy snacks everywhere I go" approach?


Snacking is what makes you fat. Have big giant meals and don't snack. Everyone goes "lol wtf you eat so much 1000Knives, how are you so skinny?" and it's simple. A giant plate of pasta probably has as many calories as you'd eat eating potato chips watching TV for an hour. Like a baked potato with no butter for example, is like what, 100-200 calories? Eat a whole baked or boiled potato instead of like 20 chips. Tada. But that's where most people's "but I don't eat that much" comes from. They'll eat a ton of snacks and then have tiny dainty portions of their actual food.

What else, I don't think you need to completely cut out sugar. Just include it in total caloric intake, also probably don't have much if you can't burn it off in like, that day, or else it's more likely to turn to fat. IE, if you're gonna have sugar before going out and doing some hiking or something it'll be better than if you have some before bed. That and fruits and stuff are obviously good.

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Didn't see hypoglycemic. I've dealt with hypoglycemia in the past (as in until a couple weeks ago.) I take a Chinese medicine called Jia Wei Xiao Yao Wan for it. I think hypoglycemia (and diabetes...) is mostly related to stress. It's mostly your adrenal/cortisol issues that cause it. Now that I'm a *tad* less stressed, and probably am getting more vitamins (yay fresh wild fruit...) I'm not as hypoglycemic as I used to be. But I think hypoglycemia is like 90% stress. What else, hypoglycemia is usually related to your body releasing too much insulin for carbs. So you can blunt insulin response a bit by adding fat to your carbs (ie, spoon of olive oil or butter) but the flip side is the insulin will store the fat in your fat cells, BUT you won't have as high insulin (basically it should probably all work out if total calories are reasonable anyway...)

EDIT 2:
I've done the lower carb thing in the past (you can find posts on here of me idiotically thinking it's awesome...) and it's stupid if you do anything athletic. Now I eat 300-400g of carbs a day and have lost like 15-20lbs from my low carb days. Lot more able to handle stress with all the carbs in my diet, too. Need energy and stuff.



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14 Jul 2013, 7:25 am

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Okay, so I stuck to the plan up until lunchtime. I realized the soup I ate had white noodles, and then I had two mini muffins, and a sandwich on white bread :oops: . Sometimes when I try to watch what I eat, I only stick to it in the morning...it's just that my self-control wears off as the day goes on. I know what the problem was...I was on a hike, my dad brought snacks, and all he brought were snacks I can't eat. But I was so hungry...I couldn't wait until I got home, so I gave in and had mini muffins. Otherwise, I would have just gotten back on track even though I had the soup, but I guess when I cheated more than once, I got sucked in and kept eating like that for the rest of the day. Next time I go on a hike, I'll bring my own snacks. And I can't just tell myself to wait out my hunger, since I'm hypoglycemic.

I packed non-perishable healthy snacks (whole-grain rice cakes, almonds) in a purse for whenever I have to leave the house. Because if I get hungry and I don't have food with me, healthy snacks can be hard to find...welcome to America! I mean, if you go to the mall, all they have to snack on are Auntie Anne's pretzels. I heard a rumor that those things have 800 calories! And even if someone else brings snacks, like today, chances are they'll be bringing something I can't eat--unless they're health nuts. What do u guys think of the "toting healthy snacks everywhere I go" approach?


Snacking is what makes you fat. Have big giant meals and don't snack. Everyone goes "lol wtf you eat so much 1000Knives, how are you so skinny?" and it's simple. A giant plate of pasta probably has as many calories as you'd eat eating potato chips watching TV for an hour. Like a baked potato with no butter for example, is like what, 100-200 calories? Eat a whole baked or boiled potato instead of like 20 chips. Tada. But that's where most people's "but I don't eat that much" comes from. They'll eat a ton of snacks and then have tiny dainty portions of their actual food.

Okay, so I disagree with "snacking makes you fat." It works differently for everyone. Besides, you can eat too many potato chips, but it's harder to overeat on healthy snacks. Basically, the reason people want to keep eating when they're full (including me, sometimes) is because the food is addictive--and what makes it addictive? The crap that's on that ingredient list. By the way, I'm not trying to lose weight--I'm trying to keep my weight stable, since I've gained three pounds in the past month and I don't want to keep gaining weight until I'm chubby.

I disagree with "snacking makes you fat." Anyway, you're a 22-year-old male, so you probably have different needs than I do. If you think about it, if I eat big portions--800 calories three times a day--then that's 2400 calories, more than I need unless I exercise like crazy. I'm not trying to lose weight, just trying not to gain weight, since I've gained a couple pounds in the past month, and if I keep eating like this, I'll be fat.

What else, I don't think you need to completely cut out sugar. Just include it in total caloric intake, also probably don't have much if you can't burn it off in like, that day, or else it's more likely to turn to fat. IE, if you're gonna have sugar before going out and doing some hiking or something it'll be better than if you have some before bed. That and fruits and stuff are obviously good.

EDIT:
Didn't see hypoglycemic. I've dealt with hypoglycemia in the past (as in until a couple weeks ago.) I take a Chinese medicine called Jia Wei Xiao Yao Wan for it. I think hypoglycemia (and diabetes...) is mostly related to stress. It's mostly your adrenal/cortisol issues that cause it. Now that I'm a *tad* less stressed, and probably am getting more vitamins (yay fresh wild fruit...) I'm not as hypoglycemic as I used to be. But I think hypoglycemia is like 90% stress. What else, hypoglycemia is usually related to your body releasing too much insulin for carbs. So you can blunt insulin response a bit by adding fat to your carbs (ie, spoon of olive oil or butter) but the flip side is the insulin will store the fat in your fat cells, BUT you won't have as high insulin (basically it should probably all work out if total calories are reasonable anyway...)

EDIT 2:
I've done the lower carb thing in the past (you can find posts on here of me idiotically thinking it's awesome...) and it's stupid if you do anything athletic. Now I eat 300-400g of carbs a day and have lost like 15-20lbs from my low carb days. Lot more able to handle stress with all the carbs in my diet, too. Need energy and stuff.



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14 Jul 2013, 7:35 am

I don't know, snacking keeps me from overeating at meal time. A 22-year-old male like you can afford to eat big giant meals, but I'm a 16-year-old girl. And I read the serving size when I snack, so I'm not eating 3 servings of food. Also, I've heard that if you don't eat sugar, you'll suddenly only crave the amount of calories you need to maintain your weight--which is what I'm trying to do. I don't want to lose weight, but I've gained three pounds in the past month because of comfort eating--that would mean 36 lbs in a year, enough to make me overweight. So I'm trying to keep my weight stable.

But anyway, I've decided to stop counting calories (too stressful) and count food groups instead. I ate too many calories yesterday anyway, probably because I cheated. So here I go--
7:00 A.M.: 1 banana, 1 serving of peanuts (1 fruit, 1 protein, 1 fat)
8:30 A.M.: 1 glass of milk (1 dairy)
To be continued...



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14 Jul 2013, 10:49 am

sugar, the bitter truth <---- url

sugar, the bitter truth, short version<--- url

I have come to the understanding that all grains are evil, even wheat, as they have things that bind to our rna to make us sick. I guess grains are natures "antibioticsc agaibst parasitic animals that do more harm than good to the earth (i. e. humans). :?


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14 Jul 2013, 11:15 am

DigitalFist wrote:
Low carb, high-protein diets are the way to go!

Eat frequent small portions and make sure to keep yourself as hydrated as possible.

There you go. The perfect diet.


Actually numerous studies have been done inre eating smaller portions more frequently and have found that it actually causes increased hunger for most (there are always exceptions).

and the high protein diets have proven to increase insulin resistance (a bad thing) as well as cause kidney damage long term(again, there are always exceptions, some have stronger kidneys than others).

additionally, the excessive hydration theories have shown to cause dangerous imbalances in electrolytes and minerals, increasing related risks of heart failure. :(

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when we study wild animals as well as human metabolism, we find that when animals (even humans) eat sugars/carbs, the body converts it to glucose for immediate energy and to fat for energy reserves. when protein is consumed, the body convertsit to glucose for immediate energy (thus the increased insulin resistance), however when animals have to rely on consuming fat, the body adjusts and burns the fat as is.

fat is the preferred fuel for the brain according to many experts, and the brain uses glucose only when forced to via high carbohydrates intake (a. k. a. the s. a. d., standard American diet)

I can provide reference links to the interested


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14 Jul 2013, 1:39 pm

FlanMaster wrote:
DigitalFist wrote:
Low carb, high-protein diets are the way to go!

Eat frequent small portions and make sure to keep yourself as hydrated as possible.

There you go. The perfect diet.


Actually numerous studies have been done inre eating smaller portions more frequently and have found that it actually causes increased hunger for most (there are always exceptions).

and the high protein diets have proven to increase insulin resistance (a bad thing) as well as cause kidney damage long term(again, there are always exceptions, some have stronger kidneys than others).

additionally, the excessive hydration theories have shown to cause dangerous imbalances in electrolytes and minerals, increasing related risks of heart failure. :(

Edit:
when we study wild animals as well as human metabolism, we find that when animals (even humans) eat sugars/carbs, the body converts it to glucose for immediate energy and to fat for energy reserves. when protein is consumed, the body convertsit to glucose for immediate energy (thus the increased insulin resistance), however when animals have to rely on consuming fat, the body adjusts and burns the fat as is.

fat is the preferred fuel for the brain according to many experts, and the brain uses glucose only when forced to via high carbohydrates intake (a. k. a. the s. a. d., standard American diet)

I can provide reference links to the interested


I disagree. You'll find all sorts of contradicting opinions and debates about diet, but I am pro high-protein low carb diets, and I find that eating small portions frequently helps me. The only thing is--I'm hungry all the time, but I don't think it's because I'm eating small portions frequently. It's because it's hard to eat enough calories when you're living off of lean protein and vegetables. I'm afraid I'm going to lose weight...not just 5 lbs or something but enough weight that my hair will fall out and I'll never be able to have children! For a period of time, I was having symptoms that made me officially anorexic, and I only weighed 10 lbs less than I do now. I guess that even though I was at a healthy weight, my body fat percentage was probably low? So that means I can't risk losing more than 5 lbs. And I'm so hungry that I think I might end up losing 20 lbs by next year 8O ! How do I eat enough calories? It's ironic that I have this issue, because most Americans, who let themselves eat whatever they want, have the opposite problem.



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14 Jul 2013, 2:44 pm

Fats.

They're 9 calories a gram.

Carbs and protein have 4.


I do high-fat, low carb and don't pay much mind to protein.
This is an excellent way to stave off cravings.

I find it difficult to keep my calories *low* enough, but I manage, and this might be what you wanna think about.


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14 Jul 2013, 3:39 pm

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hiya Kiki :) welcome to the cool club 8) be aware that there is "sugar" also hiding in any refined carb- white rice, potatoes of any kind, couscous, oats and barley, you name it. so it is a matter of 1]avoiding anything with actual white or brown sugar in them [IOW cookies/cakes/pies et al, 2]avoiding anything white [white rice, white bread, white potatoes, couscous, barley, chips et al], 3] limiting any other carb, especially corn. things cooked in virgin coconut oil [medium chain triglyceride] will get you energy in that coconut oil acts "carby" in the body in a manner that your brain can use similar to a carb. and don't be afraid of fat, there are good fats [such as the aforementioned coconut oil]. since I have done these things my health has noticeably improved. good luck to you! :)


I was about to say the same thing. Really though, you should cut out grains altogether as they're all turned into glucose in the body.

High-fat helps to supress hunger, as does a moderate amount of protein. Also avoid starchy vegetables.



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14 Jul 2013, 6:33 pm

I agree about the conflicting opinions. that's why I prefer science. It is proven fact about the body converting both sugars and proteins to glucose, while being able to burn fat as is. some carb advocates (extremists) will try to argue one point or another of this, but non-biased science study has already proven otherwise.

I feel satisfied with the ketogenic diet so far., and I am a believer in different metabolic types. i. e. Some people do better with more plant based foods, some do better with more animal based foods, while others fall somewhere in between. but one thing I adhere to as faithfully as possible., if the diet advocates don't have viable science to support the principles, I am leary.


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14 Jul 2013, 6:42 pm

I went for a day without eating anything sinful--no sugar, no high-fat animal foods, no white carbs. But I really do think whole grains are ok. We're starting to argue a little about what the healthiest diet is...I think we can just say that I'll try the old-fashioned high-protein, low-carb, small-portions-frequently diet.



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14 Jul 2013, 7:01 pm

I apologize if I appear argumentative. That is not my intent. I merely enjoy discussion, fact sharing, and different opinions. thank you for sharing with me and allowing me to do the same. :)


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14 Jul 2013, 8:37 pm

FlanMaster wrote:
I apologize if I appear argumentative. That is not my intent. I merely enjoy discussion, fact sharing, and different opinions. thank you for sharing with me and allowing me to do the same. :)


It's totally fine. No hard feelings.



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16 Jul 2013, 5:50 pm

I like plain natural yoghurt and have it for breakfast with a sliced banana. For snacks, or for when I feel like chomping on something, I have raw carrots.



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09 Oct 2013, 5:43 pm

Okay, so I went back to eating sugar because I felt discouraged (which is why I stopped posting here for a while), but I'm going to try the no-sugar thing again. This time, I have more willpower. I can do it! I started tonight with an all-natural homemade soup, and I will plan my meals for tomorrow right here:
Breakfast: 1 packet plain oatmeal with 2 1/2 tbsp. soy protein (205 calories)
Snack: Nuts (200 calories)
Lunch: 2 servings lean ham, 4 corn thins, 6 oz blackberries, 1 apple (480 calories)
Snack: Cheese sandwich on whole wheat (300 calories)
Dinner: Whatever my mom makes (about 800 calories, probably--she likes to make big dinners :roll: )
Total: 1985 calories

And I will exercise for 30 minutes--no more, because then I wouldn't have time to do my homework, but no less, because otherwise I will gain weight.