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TheSmilingGoat
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04 Dec 2007, 8:08 am

iv done medievil sword fighting and have wanted to do boxing seince i was a little kid (my dad tought me some stuff) and im thinking of doing that savatie thing(think thats how its spelt(french kickboxing))


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04 Dec 2007, 2:34 pm

I only know a little bit of Hapkido, Tae kwon Do and whatever kind of Karate they teach at a local dojo, but when I say a little I mean only a few of the principles and concepts,

Wow, I DO suck! XD


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04 Dec 2007, 2:58 pm

Hey, stay with it. You have to start somewhere, right? :)



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05 Dec 2007, 4:02 am

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Nice. Boxers and muay thai/kickboxers >>>> all other athletes in my opinion. I give the edge to boxers though because they fight 12 rounds and take so many shots to the head. Toughest sport in the world I think.

Hi. It's difficult, that's for sure; on the other hand, I don't see myself running any marathons either. That seems mighty grueling, too.


It's still great fun, though. :)


yer but then again a marathon runner is copeating against the limits of his own body, a boxer on the other hand is competing against the limits of his own body and how hard his opponent is hitting him


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05 Dec 2007, 8:51 am

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Nice. Boxers and muay thai/kickboxers >>>> all other athletes in my opinion. I give the edge to boxers though because they fight 12 rounds and take so many shots to the head. Toughest sport in the world I think.


i think its hard to compare pro boxing and professional muay thai (the stuf in thailand, not the watered down s**t over here) - they both are extremely intense. boxing for 12 rounds is an incredible feat, thats for sure. but then, you are "only" hit with gloved fists. granted, thats more than enough, but compare that to muay thai matches: 5 rounds but gloved fists, kicks, knees, elbows, much more active clinching... the capability of damage is certainly higher in muay thai, id wager (the most gashing cuts in boxing are childs play against the gashes a well-placed elbow can cut, but you know that).

also something to take into consideration is how many 12-round matches a pro boxer fights per year. a thai fighter paying his bills with fighting will fight on a bi-weekly basis (maybe even weekly, if he can manage it). thats pretty insane, too, me thinks.



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20 Dec 2007, 8:41 am

yeah im a former light heavy weight champion in a low budget mixed martial arts company... I know ask, hopkido, combat hopkito, kick boxing, ameture wrestling, and since i grew up in tha streets of dallas street fightin... ive competed and i have aspergers syndrome but i dislocated my knee in my title defense and i cant compete till i get surjery and i dont have the money for surgery right now so itll be a while till i step back into tha ring...



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20 Dec 2007, 1:05 pm

Hey G-Dub,

I hope you get well soon!


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20 Dec 2007, 3:18 pm

gekitsu wrote:
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Nice. Boxers and muay thai/kickboxers >>>> all other athletes in my opinion. I give the edge to boxers though because they fight 12 rounds and take so many shots to the head. Toughest sport in the world I think.


i think its hard to compare pro boxing and professional muay thai (the stuf in thailand, not the watered down sh** over here) - they both are extremely intense. boxing for 12 rounds is an incredible feat, thats for sure. but then, you are "only" hit with gloved fists. granted, thats more than enough, but compare that to muay thai matches: 5 rounds but gloved fists, kicks, knees, elbows, much more active clinching... the capability of damage is certainly higher in muay thai, id wager (the most gashing cuts in boxing are childs play against the gashes a well-placed elbow can cut, but you know that).

also something to take into consideration is how many 12-round matches a pro boxer fights per year. a thai fighter paying his bills with fighting will fight on a bi-weekly basis (maybe even weekly, if he can manage it). thats pretty insane, too, me thinks.

Very good points.



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20 Dec 2007, 5:17 pm

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Hey G-Dub,

I hope you get well soon!


I apreciate the get well comment... Thanks... My knee problems been there since i was 14 but i thought it was fixed... The thing is is that my legs grew too fast for my growth plates to gkeep up so my knee cap in my roght leg aint in its groove right, and i thought it was fixed the after about 2 years of martial atrs and cage fighting, it screwed up and stuff.. but it aint nothin but a thang..... Ill be stuck with it either until im older (unless its injured further than it should be at my age) or if i get surjery, so it sucks but it aight...
But i love martial arts, its fun, good stress relief, and a good way to keep in shape...


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22 Dec 2007, 6:55 pm

I do karate.



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24 Dec 2007, 10:35 pm

Hpe i spelt it right i only caught a glimpse of your name.. anyways what kind of martial arts do you study??


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25 Dec 2007, 12:28 am

I'm not in any sanctioned bouts or anything, but my gym teaches submissions grappling, kick boxing, and okinawan kenpo. I've learned a few tricks also from marines and green berretts (I had a grandfather who was a green berrett in fact), plus I can street fight pretty well (because at one time I had to live on the streets). I'm a very small guy, so a lot of people seem to think they can get over easy on me, and many of times they've quickly found themselves on the ground with a few broken bones. Though I try not to look for fights, if I can solve a problem peacefully I will... If I can, but I'm not gonna hesitate to bust someone's head if it's necessary. If they kick my butt then more power to them.
Other things that can improve your fighting ability though are yoga (builds flexibility and balance), practice punching through water until you can punch through it as if it were air (this is what muhammad ali did, imagine how fast this will make you punch in open air, they had to use camera magic so you could see Ali's punches on TV I mind you)...... When your sitting around the house, hold a lighter as close to your fist as you can bare, for as long as you can bare it. This makes your fist tighter and stronger, they do this in prison (my other grandfather was a prison guard).



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03 Jan 2008, 5:19 am

Quite surprised to see a thread like this but very glad. Good to see so many people into martial arts.

I love all things related to fighting and combat sports in general. I started out with Kung fu when I was 13 and did that for 7 years on and off. Then after a long lay off I wanted something a bit more challenging so I took up Boxing which I've done for 6 years and had 6 bouts toward the end. Had to quit because of a new job working shifts but then I decided to have another go but this time doing Muay Thai. Been doing that for about 6 months and I've had one bout amateur rules. No elbows or knees to the head. Looking to do some more this year. Have to say Gekitsu's right when he says how tough the Muay Thai fighters are in Thailand for fighting with full thai rules. It's brutal! You can get seriously damaged when you add elbows into the equation. And its not uncommon for a retiring Thai fighter to have had over 300 bouts in their career.

My big passion is MMA. I wanted to train it since seeing the very first UFC and being wowed by Royce Gracie choking out far larger opponents. Got the opportunity to train in it about 3 years back and did that for about 12 months until that gym shut and just recently in the last couple of months I found another MMA class so went along to that and during rolling I got caught with a neck crank which put me out for a few weeks. I didn't tap though :) I'm hoping to compete in amateur bouts sometime when I've got my grappling/submission game and my conditioning up to standard. So maybe sometime this year all going well.



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13 Jan 2008, 9:24 pm

One thing that's always baffled me, they say that kung fu has the most sub-styles, followed by silate with the next most..... Does wrestling not qualify as a martial art with hundreds of different sub-styles across the world? Off top of my head, some varying disciplines of wrestling would be:

1. Greco-Roman
2. Amatuer
3. Folkstyle
4. grappling/submissions
5. sambo
6. sumo
7. Indian Oil Wrestling
8. koshti (Iranian)
9. Nuba wrestling (S. Africa)
10. freestyle

That's just a brainstorm and I know there are many variants of wrestling from different cultures around the world, many of them are brutal and unforgiving, highly combat efficient. Some categorize JJ and their derivitives as forms of wrestling too.



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17 Jan 2008, 5:58 pm

I do a re-creation of medieval sword fighting, except that I use rattan instead of steel weapons. My metal helmet protects me, but I still get bruises if I get hit where I don't have armor. I might take up another martial art such as karate because the movements are similar to what I do.


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18 Jan 2008, 2:04 am

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yer but then again a marathon runner is copeating against the limits of his own body, a boxer on the other hand is competing against the limits of his own body and how hard his opponent is hitting him

Good point. I have seen a few guys who were marathoners come into a boxing gym. They were disappointed because they were very tired after the first workout or two. I told them that training, endurance, and strength have a sport-specific element to them. I tried to encourage them to keep at it, assuring them that they would build up their boxing stamina, but the guys were very disappointed in how they did, and most of them did not return more than 2 or 3 times. :(

It's a shame because I think they would have really enjoyed the training if they had stayed with it. It seemed like they felt a lot of pressure was on them, i.e., they worried that people would say, "That guy is a marathon runner. Why is he getting so tired?"

I've gotten similar comments from some of my friends who have attended my competitive bouts. There's a lot of enthusiasm and they say they'd really like to try the sport. On the other hand, they also say, "No way could I ever do that. I would get too tired." Or, "I'm not athletic enough." Well, I am no natural born athlete either. I have to work hard to build up my skill, and boxing is really the only sport that I am good at. Individual sports have always been more appealing to me than team sports; I have tended to do better at the individual sports.


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