Were you physically fit as a teenager?

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20 May 2012, 11:57 am

There are and always will be exceptions, I just wish people wouldn't latch onto them. Maybe I've been mistakenly labouring under the impression that we are supposed to strive to achieve our genetic potential, or maybe some people just didn't get that memo.



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20 May 2012, 1:02 pm

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This is me, taken last week. I haven't had body fat measured accurately in 6 months, but I'm pretty good at estimating it based on how many veins show up on my abs. At 10%, there are none, and at 6-7, there are two big ones, and at 5%, there are a dozen more 8O . Image


Very impressive, Charles. I think it's safe to say you represent the gold standard in fitness among WP members.

I'm feeling better than I have in quite awhile in terms of overall fitness. I look no where near as good as you but after training fairly hard for the last three months for an upcoming western mountain climbing trip in July, I'm as solid as I've been in years. I'm pretty focused on cardiovascular training and building my wind. Right now, I swim a mile about three times a week and run four to five miles twice a week. My diet is pretty normal and I don't snack at all ... probably could stand to lay off the PM alcohol but I dig my "medication." We don't have a scale at my house, but just by looking I'd put myself somewhere around 190-195 (at 6'00) ... I'm not cut at all but I have very good tone at the moment.



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20 May 2012, 1:03 pm

ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
There are and always will be exceptions, I just wish people wouldn't latch onto them. Maybe I've been mistakenly labouring under the impression that we are supposed to strive to achieve our genetic potential, or maybe some people just didn't get that memo.

It just bothers some people when the exceptions are ignored or are thought to be fake. Same could be said on what some people think about autism, or other mental conditions that are similar. "ADHD is not even real"


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20 May 2012, 1:04 pm

No-one's ignoring the exceptions, but they are just that - exceptions.



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20 May 2012, 2:04 pm

To get back to te original topic, I was very unfit as a teen. I was quite fit as a child, but quit moving and started eating more aroudn age 12. Still, I was never overweight until about a year ago. Now I've lost some pounds again and my dietician says I'm not overweight, but I'd still like to lose some weight. My endurance is pretty much non-existent. I feel like suffocating when I run a short distance.



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21 May 2012, 12:18 am

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Well, yes. There are unfit people at either side of the obesity divide, but there is no way an obese person is going to out-perform somone who is fit and isn't obese unless it's eating or sweating, or being a bit weird and delusional.

you are wrong, actually. i outperform thin dancers all the time in hip hop competitions, and i do not sweat like them either. you seriously need to let go of the idea that overweight and obese people are somehow unhealthy by default.

25 to 30% of obese people being perfectly healthy is not an exception. it is a large proportion.


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21 May 2012, 12:19 am

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Of course it does. There's incredible variation among human beings,
and many of us have a set point in the overweight or obese range,
all while eating healthfully and exercising.


The laws of thermodynamics are the same eveywhere. Being "obese" isn't something you are just because of your genetics; it's a lifetyle choice where you don't adapt your diet to your metabolism and activity level. Most respected doctors agree with me


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Good for you. Everyone's different. You won't find a doctor worth her salt who will tell you some people aren't healthier at higher weights.
Nothing in the article you cited refuted the fact that some people's metabolisms are far slower than others.


The vast majority of doctors will tell that you're at your healthiest within your ideal range of bodyfat. hence, the only chimpanzees who are even slightly plump are alpha males or females, as they are the ones who get to choose the food first.

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Wait.
Wasn't it you who starred in a thread a while back where you outright accused fat people who diet and exercise of lying about their habits and
erroneously claimed being overweight or obese poses inherent risks to female fertility,
to the tune of pages and pages of drivel?


Which is true. Obesity makes a woman less healthy, less fertile and also poses many risks toward the fetus if she's pregnant. I don't care what some pseudofeminists want to be the designated standard.

Fat people either exercise to little or et too much.

the obesity paradox is a phenomenon whereby 25 to 30% of obese people are as healthy as "normal" people, with no additional health risks. in some cases these obese people actually become unhealthy after weight loss supervised by a doctor. and being overweight and obese actually makes some women LESS prone to die of certain diseases (and hence live longer).

you can't simply state that "Obesity makes a woman less healthy" because it isn't true. for some women it is the case, and for others it is not.


How is what you just said not sexist?

i do not understand your question.


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21 May 2012, 12:22 am

on the original question, no - as a teenager i was extremely thin but not fit. i failed physical education class and could not climb one flight of stairs without getting winded.


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21 May 2012, 12:26 am

general reminder to thread contributors - be cautious about how you talk about obese and overweight people on WrongPlanet. try replacing "obese people" with "white people" or "men" or something to get an idea if your post crosses a line.

for example, would it be ok to say that, "asian people are slothful gluttons"? NO. so don't say it about fat people either.


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21 May 2012, 2:33 am

Wow, just wow.



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21 May 2012, 2:34 am

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Meanwhile... back on earth.

you seriously need to find some new friends.


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21 May 2012, 2:36 am

You need to let go of your corpulent complex.



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21 May 2012, 2:38 am

it is not me with any sort of complex, because i don't have a problem with obese people. it is YOU that has a problem with large people.


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21 May 2012, 2:38 am

You're delusional. There are some unwritten rules in life you just don't see.



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21 May 2012, 2:40 am

hahaha clearly i am not, because i am surrounded by people who don't hate on fat people, and i have never once suffered socially for being overweight, even when i was obese. if you choose to hang out with people who are mean and judgemental, then.... you will experience that from them. :lol:


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21 May 2012, 2:43 am

I don't choose to hang out with those I don't choose to hang out with. I don't know why you're latching onto that.
You're being a bit mental. Carry on.