Is anyone into any kind of martial art?

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14 Oct 2012, 10:20 pm

Palakol wrote:
^ Nice. I myself learned to use those almost entirely through playing Soul Calibur. (I personally like to hold them closer to the chain, as I feel like I have a lot more control of it and it hits me on the head a lot less.) I've read that Nunchaku are most effectively used in combat as a grappling rather than a striking weapon though, as it is rather easy to neutralize its momentum by using a longer stick and blocking the chain.


You do get better control that way, but then you sacrifice range and power. You have to learn how to manipulate them so you don't hit yourself. It can take a little while, though. I never understood... I went to nunchaku forums, and everyone there would tell beginners to get a pair of foam nunchaku to start out with... which I guess is good, cuz you won't hurt yourself, but the way i see it is that when you hurt yourself, you learn what not to do. You might get used to them with the foam ones and not hurt yourself, but you won't have as much of an incentive to learn how to swing them in a way that you don't hurt yourself. You need to learn from your mistakes.



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16 Oct 2012, 1:17 am

DerStadtschutz wrote:
You do get better control that way, but then you sacrifice range and power. You have to learn how to manipulate them so you don't hit yourself. It can take a little while, though. I never understood... I went to nunchaku forums, and everyone there would tell beginners to get a pair of foam nunchaku to start out with... which I guess is good, cuz you won't hurt yourself, but the way i see it is that when you hurt yourself, you learn what not to do. You might get used to them with the foam ones and not hurt yourself, but you won't have as much of an incentive to learn how to swing them in a way that you don't hurt yourself. You need to learn from your mistakes.

Actually you get more power from it. It applies more force to the chain, which multiplies the force on the other stick. Otherwise it's just a glorified short staff. Besides, a Nunchaku isn't really a weapon one would use for its range. It's mostly quick, short strikes, or grappling. It could easily be neutralized and out-ranged by simple Kali sticks.

I started training with them 11 years ago with PVC pipes held together by a chain. Then I made two bamboo ones held together by rope. I used them two at a time, but it wasn't really as fun. I later got a pair made of ironwood and one made of coconut lumber. Hit myself everywhere; shins, head, elbows, face, ear, penis... I even had to get stitches once. I also had a sweet telescopic metal one that was pretty awesome to look at and to carry, but not really as practical. I still play around with them these days, though not as often.



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16 Oct 2012, 8:05 am

I've boxed for 1 year, MMA for 1 year. But with the MMA, I've embraced most martial arts, such as capoeira, BJJ, catch-wrestling, karate and sanda. I absolutely love studying fighting as a whole and putting it into practise in the ring. I think being so obsessed has kind of given me an advantage over the many NT's who fight and don't take the time out to study all the nuances. I hope this will take me far, we shall see :)



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16 Oct 2012, 7:51 pm

Taekwondo has given me a royal boost in the self-worth and self-confidence arenas. Loving it, even if I'm so sore I can't sneeze for three days. :D


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16 Oct 2012, 7:53 pm

I do Brazilian jiu jitsu, judo, boxing, etc. It's very therapeutic actually because everyone seems to disappear when I'm fighting and I love that. It's a sport that makes sense to me..



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16 Oct 2012, 11:00 pm

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You do get better control that way, but then you sacrifice range and power. You have to learn how to manipulate them so you don't hit yourself. It can take a little while, though. I never understood... I went to nunchaku forums, and everyone there would tell beginners to get a pair of foam nunchaku to start out with... which I guess is good, cuz you won't hurt yourself, but the way i see it is that when you hurt yourself, you learn what not to do. You might get used to them with the foam ones and not hurt yourself, but you won't have as much of an incentive to learn how to swing them in a way that you don't hurt yourself. You need to learn from your mistakes.

Actually you get more power from it. It applies more force to the chain, which multiplies the force on the other stick. Otherwise it's just a glorified short staff. Besides, a Nunchaku isn't really a weapon one would use for its range. It's mostly quick, short strikes, or grappling. It could easily be neutralized and out-ranged by simple Kali sticks.

I started training with them 11 years ago with PVC pipes held together by a chain. Then I made two bamboo ones held together by rope. I used them two at a time, but it wasn't really as fun. I later got a pair made of ironwood and one made of coconut lumber. Hit myself everywhere; shins, head, elbows, face, ear, penis... I even had to get stitches once. I also had a sweet telescopic metal one that was pretty awesome to look at and to carry, but not really as practical. I still play around with them these days, though not as often.


No... you get more power from a baseball bat when you hold it near the end, not when you choke up. The outside edge of a CD spins at a faster speed than the center of the CD because it covers more ground in the same time. Faster spinning = more force.

And just because nunchaku don't have a great deal of range in the first place doesn't mean you want decrease the effective range.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdFKPjw1sew[/youtube]



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17 Oct 2012, 1:13 am

^ Not really. I get what you're saying, but like I said it's not a stick. Nor is it a baseball bat or a CD. The physics are totally different. The force has to be applied to the chain, which multiplies the kinetic energy of the striking side, in the same principle as a flail or a blackjack or a sock filled with dead batteries. Especially with heavier metal ones, the pressure tends to decrease the closer you are to the edge (like when you are using a sword you hold it near the hilt, not by the edge of the handle), therefore applying less force for the chain to multiply. With this weapon it's more about the velocity, as it doesn't have much mass to begin with. And you lose the wrist flick when you hold it too far down and you end up just clubbing someone with it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H0OKsBamo4[/youtube]



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18 Oct 2012, 3:04 pm

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I'm interested in taking Krav Maga lessons

I've thought about KM though I hear it's very expensive. I've trained in boxing on and off for a number of years and thought about trying other arts, but at 38 it's getting a bit late for me to join a gym from scratch.



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18 Oct 2012, 10:52 pm

I'm slowly teaching myself Wing Chun, admittedly because of watching Ip Man 1 & 2 too many times.


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19 Oct 2012, 9:59 pm

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^ Not really. I get what you're saying, but like I said it's not a stick. Nor is it a baseball bat or a CD. The physics are totally different. The force has to be applied to the chain, which multiplies the kinetic energy of the striking side, in the same principle as a flail or a blackjack or a sock filled with dead batteries. Especially with heavier metal ones, the pressure tends to decrease the closer you are to the edge (like when you are using a sword you hold it near the hilt, not by the edge of the handle), therefore applying less force for the chain to multiply. With this weapon it's more about the velocity, as it doesn't have much mass to begin with. And you lose the wrist flick when you hold it too far down and you end up just clubbing someone with it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H0OKsBamo4[/youtube]


You're not supposed to use your wrists in the first place... They're supposed to be locked. No, it's not a baseball bat or a CD, but the same concepts still apply. It's not like the laws of physics change because you're using nunchaku.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg_ILTyfjyc[/youtube]

How are you supposed to block or trap anything if you hold them right next to the chain or cord?

The man in these videos is actually from Okinawa, and he was taught and teaches the same traditional style that originated there.

Also, with a sword, the hilt isn't usually located close to the halfway point of the sword's total length. That, and you don't HIT with a sword, you CUT with it. You don't choke up and hold a flail right next to the chain either.



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20 Oct 2012, 12:33 pm

Going in to test for camo belt today. So excited/nervous. :!:


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20 Oct 2012, 9:54 pm

^^ Sure. If you say so.

HereBeDragons wrote:
Going in to test for camo belt today. So excited/nervous. :!:

What's a camo belt?



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21 Oct 2012, 12:56 am

Palakol wrote:
^^ Sure. If you say so.

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Going in to test for camo belt today. So excited/nervous. :!:

What's a camo belt?

Something from an Americanized, non-koryu dojo probably. Could you (herebedragons) tell us what kyu rank you'll be?



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23 Oct 2012, 4:58 pm

I don't quite understand what you mean by kyu, it's not something I've heard of. I'll do my best regardless. Camo is short for camouflage-colored belt. It means I'll become an intermediate, as the first three belts are considered beginners. Hope that's helped answer your question.


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24 Oct 2012, 4:36 pm

I love martial arts and the art of mastering your body. It's been a life long interest.
It's just that so many of them aren't really practical for if you got attacked on the street.
If they had Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do around here, I would be all over that.
I tried Taekwondo when I was younger and then again 2 years ago, but
was not happy with how it was run. There is a place that is not too far
from here, but they teach Kung Fu/Tai Chi that I'm interested in once
I have the money for a freakin' lesson. Motivation/money/not great
in groups stops me. I wish I could get one on one training...



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24 Oct 2012, 10:58 pm

HereBeDragons wrote:
I don't quite understand what you mean by kyu, it's not something I've heard of. I'll do my best regardless. Camo is short for camouflage-colored belt. It means I'll become an intermediate, as the first three belts are considered beginners. Hope that's helped answer your question.

It may be a koryu term. Kyu is basically how many levels you have before black belt: a brown belt training for his shodan test would be first kyu, for example.