Asperger's and sports; Athletic aspies?
My whole family has always played sports, it was just something I've been doing for as long as I can remember. Soccer, softball, hockey (man, did I love hockey) field hockey, lacrosse. My aunt (whom I have suspected of also having asperger's, her son does... several people in my family do) got a full scholarship for lacrosse. I was captain of my field hockey team, MVP and leading goal scorer in the district my senior year. I loved it, even when I hated it. I have always had a natural sense of my own body, I dunno. It's strange. Sometimes I am very clumsy, I often misjudge doorframes and slam myself all over walls, sometimes I just topple over while I'm walking because I forget to hold myself straight up. But I've never broken a bone. I've never badly hurt myself. I just always seem to catch myself at the last moment and know what to do. And if I'm playing a sport I get into this sort of fluid state where I understand my body and how to use my momentum and the momentum of others against them. It feels great.
I think that if it weren't for sports I would have had a far harder time growing up. It really helped me learn how to use my energy the right ways and what ways of touching others were appropriate, etc. and it gave me a sense of belonging to be on a team. It's very clear what you're doing, or at least I always thought so. There's nothing vague about it. You just want to try to win. Ahhh. I haven't played a sport in years and I definitely feel like my mental state is suffering for it. My anxiety is through the roof. I ought to join a bar softball league or something if I could bear meeting new folk...
--Clay Marzo who is an American professional surfer with AS
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I came here too to mention Clay Marzo, also I'm not sure if I'm right but wasn't that great chess player also ASD? The guy who was said to have a "walling" strategy that made the opponent feel like he/she was being over-run like a impending wall...he also versed the russians in the world champions but it got too crazy for him regarding hitmen and death threats...he eventually broke off and became a recluse I think in Paris, France or Italy or something...not sure...??
Anyways I believe I was quite good at taekwondo as well as a kid especially in sparring...but it changed during Mauy Thai when I grew up...
Back in school I wasn't one of the best, but I had my moments...for lunch time rugby I was an overlooked player, since the people getting points get all the glory, I was above average on takedowns for defense, unfortuantely I wasn't good at offense because I never played footy where I would learn good evasive maneuvers to get around people...most of the time I'd just try to hit them dead on as hard as I could so hopefully they would think twice about tackling me...when it came to Basketball I wasn't that bad, I wasn't a great shooter till I grew up more, but a few times I surprised myself by stealing the ball off a really good top amateur league player...so in that respect I also was better at defending...A few other times I surprised myself like in indoor soccer for gym class I had a streak of greatness, the teacher actually had to join the opposing team to try to defend against me...he nicknamed me "the rock" ha ha ha...and around the same time I also done a good job at indoor kick to kick, where I would mark the ball as often as the "cool" kids/jocks...I was really surprised there, as I'm s**t at catching.
This is a message to all parents like me who have a child diagnosed with aspergers and who are wondering if their child could be good at sport as all specialised doctors and websites for aspergers mention the problem of coordination, lack of social skills etc.
Well, this is the story of Aaron, my son, who was diagnosed with aspergers when he was six years old. At the start, his repetitive behaviour, his lack of high contact, his anxiety with changes led us to consult our local GP. We have four kids but Aaron was different, he could not understand indirect messages such as expressions, he could not read people's facial expressions etc. After a 10 minutes visit our local GP said that Aaron was fine and that we were over anxious parents and that there was nothing wrong with him. But with time and in comparison to his siblings it became more and more obvious that Aaron was not a typical functioning six year old child. After a long battle through the medical world, we finally managed to get him assessed by a group of child psycholgists in the UK specialised in children with autism. And the diagnosis came without much doubt.
Although the fact that Aaron was diagnosed with aspergers did not bother me at all, it helped us a lot to explain to family and friends that Aaron 's behaviour was not just due to the fact that he was badly behaved or spoilt or that we were bad parents but that he just did not understood the world in the same way as most of us. At that time we moved to France, a country lagging behind in terms of accepting and understanding kids with autism. So we decided not to label Aaron as an asperger kid but to treat him in the same way as any of our other children. He is a high achieving child and I did not want to limit his experiences just on the basis that he has aspergers. I thought that when problems arose we would deal with them. We registered him at a local soccer club where at the start he stood out with his mannerisms and way of walking. He could not get too close to the other kids, he felt uncomfortable. We did not say anything to the coach or to other parents and something truly amazing happened. Quite rapidly Aaron developed tactics to adjust to his environment. He learnt French and English expressions by heart with their definition and each time something did not make sense he guessed that this was likely to be an expression and even started to use them. He did the same with facial expressions and I worked daily with him to look at people in the eyes when he spoke as not looking in the eyes in a social environment was too much of a weird thing to do.
With soccer, in a same way he developed an above average ability through obsessive behaviour. Initially he stood out as he had an extremelly advanced theoretical understanding of the game. At an age when most kids can only look at their feet, he could position himself in parts of the pitch where there was no one and so he could cover the balls when the others could not. He said to me that he saw the game from a birds eye view and during matches he could see the whole distribution of his team mates across the field like on the playstation! Then everyday he worked out new skills and practiced things that he saw on the internet. Then in some competitions there were skills tests like juggling or precision shots and he won several of them to the great astonishment of the other parents who thought at the time that he must have been lucky. Slowly but surely he became more confident and dominant in the team by the way he plays but he was still very quiet and good at listening to instructions which is a trait appreciated by coaches. He decided that he wanted to become a professional soccer player and in the last couple of years, he has worked very hard at it. His progress are amazing and he has now become really popular with his team mates. [You can see his video on Youtube if you google "Sport Guyanais U10 Aaron Gozlan Football (8 years)"].
Aaron still has difficult moments in particular at home but he works really hard to adjust and fit in. He still has a unique vision of the world, which is refreshing for us and his siblings. We keep not labelling him as asperger as where we are now living autistic kids are not accepted in mainstream society even if they do not need any help to adjust. That is the way it is. We have not even told Aaron as until now he has found his own way of coping and he is pretty successful at it. He now speaks two languages, does high level sports competition and...has quite a few friends.
So from my own experience, the capacity of some asperger kids to find their own solutions to problems they are facing daily is limitless. It has been an extraordinary journey to see our child, removing one by one all the barriers and fears we as parents had put on him and on his future.
Forget playing 11 a side football , try 5 a side or 7 a side football - amazing ! !
I wonder does there are aspies athletes to compete on normal sport events not just Paralympic, but the real Olympic Games And winning and showing that Aspies are better than NTs
I wonder does there any aspie on Mundial (Soccer World Cap) or in American Football (Super Bowl)
BTW i recently come across with interview with young skateboarder Jagger Eaton, in my opinion the boy on 100 % is aspie , maybe ADHD but he's certainly not NT's
See for yourself
This is the boy i was talking about, does he not like a little bit Aspie for you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eQGUhLVYIU
I am an Self Diagnosed Aspie. I have bee 100 percent sure for about 2 days after about 60 pages of The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome by Tony Attwood ( I have since finished). My strongest special interest is in becoming Perfect both physically and mentally. This influences pretty much all of my other special interests which are roughly 20 or so. I get the impression this is a large amount but the book was unspecific regarding any common number. Sorry kind of irrelevant. Among them the 4 most heavily adhere to are, in order, Basketball, Martial Arts, Reading Fantasy (need a Mary sue character or exceptionally strong), and League of Legends. Like the first poster I am pretty absurd in all. Although in Basketball I find can also be wildly inconsistant. I find that it is stress that prevents me from playing at my normal level. It helps to give myself positive self talk, remember what I can do when I am locked in, and move as fast as possible(its hard to worry and run at the same time). I am amazingly confident alone but because of my interactions with people I have very low confidence when around people. When I am locked in my shot is a rival to Stephen Curry. I can shoot from half court at about a 60% clip when practicing alone. And I have developed a special shot I can take running away from the basket and jumping on to my right leg and shoot as I'm turning. I can take that shot at 3 point range at a 90% clip (guarded or not) and up to the white line near half court 65-70 % unguarded and roughly 50 % while guarded. I am also a prolific defender and have success on people up to 6'6" even in the post (I am 5'9"). I also showed similar success in football. Although I specialized in WR on offense and MLB on D although I have since lost interest. Although I had a remarkable ability to catch the ball one handed or even being able to twist my body midair to catch balls thrown up to 2 1/2 - 3 feet behind me. Really would like to talk to any others with an interest in Basketball.
I wonder how many sportsman or sportswoman for that matter had Asperger Syndrome?
I read that Leo Messi from FC Barcelona had Asperger
http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/77 ... of-autism/
Pro's
zen-like single-minded focus
stubborn determination / doesn't know when to quit
breaks a complicated situation, down to simple parts
builds systems / finds the pattern
occasional lack of social apprehension
Con's
don't want to jump in the air (for emotion's sake) or hug you
offbeat fashion sense
viscous disdain for pedantism
Many of us would make for intimidating athletes, out of pure inertia, meaning no harm or ill-will toward anyone. I think our minds work like those performance video's, where people scrutinize every detail, that would lead to better performance.
I am looking at these con's, feeling that none of them are even substantial.
But, there is a problem with my natural inclinations, here:
athletes are adamant celebrities and spokespeople, more than anything.
I was told that I was physically-overqualified, required an entourage, and was supposed to be using a consumer product, for over a year.
But, physically-overqualified.
You see, the problem was not athleticism.
I received my official diagnosis today... Long story for some other time perhaps. I've been worked up all day and I can't sleep, so I've signed up just now hoping to satisfy a curious question that's nagging away.
During the assessment today, I mentioned the sports I play and was asked about them. As much as I dislike some of the people that play sports, their attitudes and the social situations they lead to, I have always loved playing sports, and without bragging TOO much, I've always been up there with the best at whatever it is that I did. I was the fastest sprinter in school athletics (no good over distance ), I started playing soccer and was a great winger with a powerful shot. I played cricket and was an extremely fast bowler as well.
I would practice by myself or with my little brother all day, every day, until after dark. A bunch of awkward situations eventually occurred and I started to hate the aggressive attitudes of people that I encountered so I gave up all sports to concentrate on my musical hobbies.
I started playing indoor soccer or futsal a while ago and I'm having a blast with that. Last year I started playing lawn bowls, similar sort of story there, gave it up to avoid certain people. Just recently, I started playing bowls again after much procrastination, and I've since gone on to win the club championship for pairs with another man who has been friendly towards me and taken me under his wing. I also study T'ai chi ch'uan and have an interest in martial arts.
On to the point I suppose... The Doc was surprised to hear that I was actually good at sports, I am the first example he has heard about. I can find very little online about famous aspie athletes, other than that it is apparently something we don't tend to be very good at, especially team sports. While I do have issues with the social aspects of team sports, the coordination aspects I've never had any worries with, in fact quite the opposite. I am extremely clumsy around home, I walk clumsily and bump things, spill things and generally fumble my way through life. I do have times during a game of something where I'm hopeless, clumsy and generally poor all round, but then the 'hyper-focus' kicks in, and I become unstoppable. I can be extremely inconsistent, but can generally be counted on to do something amazing at least a few times per game. I would be very interested to hear from anyone else that is an aspie and is also a decent athlete or sportsperson... Surely I can't be the only one?
I've also been thinking about the concepts of hyper-focus (specifically in relation to the autistic community), the idea of being 'in the zone' and the new term 'flow'. I believe these terms are just describing the same thing. What do you guys think? Do you use any specific technique to get into 'the zone' during sports or some kind of creative activity? I'm working on a way to take that ability that I have to produce these performances and apply that to every day life... Anyway.... It would be really interesting to hear your responses and expand this further
i was 4,8 or 9 when i got mine
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Autistic golfer dreams of Green Jacket
But for autistic newly qualified professional Simon Seungmin Lee, it is a way to escape from his enclosed self and engage with the world.
The 20-year-old South Korean, who grew up in the US, has been medically assessed as having the communication skills of a child half his age -- and the socialisation abilities of a 10-month-old baby.
But six years after taking up the clubs, and following five failed attempts, he secured professional status at a Korea PGA trial in May -- one of the few autistic people to do so anywhere in the world.
His next goal is a tour card at the Korea PGA qualifying school in November.
"I love golf," said Lee, who has difficulty speaking and whose mother helped him communicate throughout the interview.
"I want to win the Masters", he added.
At age eight, he was placed in a special education system in the US, where he started playing ice hockey as a sports therapy.
Six years later, he turned to golf, which he had been practising during summer vacations.
Autistic golfers are not completely unprecedented. Moe Norman, who won 55 Canadian Tour and other Canadian events from the 1950s to the 1970s, is believed to have suffered from the disorder. A metronomically reliable hitter of the ball, he has been described as "a supernaturally gifted yet cruelly misunderstood athlete".
But Lee's autism may act as an advantage in competition, he said, when pressure can adversely affect performance.
"Unlike ordinary athletes, he is not so tense in matches and his concentration remains high throughout a round," Kim said.
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Scott Garcia mountain climber
Autistic Colorado man tackles 14ers across the stateAutistic Colorado man tackles 14ers across the state
Garcia, 24, has a hard time with any kind of change, but when he focuses on something, it becomes his main thing in life.
“That’s what being autistic does,” said Garcia, of Pueblo, Colorado.
“It makes me shy. It is very easy to like stay focused and just to focus on my goals.”
Garcia, in a sense, has used characteristics caused by autism to summit 31 of the states “14ers.”
“Those are peaks above 14,000 feet. There are about 58 in the state of Colorado,” he said.
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Me!! Well, I sucked at sports through most of my youth, I was overweight, probably eating my emotions. It didn't help that I was on the spectrum and abused by my parents. I'm a yoga instructor who is currently training for the triathlon. But I haven't been able to run in over a month, which sucks, the missing link I only found out about last summer that is the outlet I need is cut off again, but at least this is giving me an appreciation for how much I need running. I'm 35, and already faster than a lot of teenagers. Noticing patterns really kicks off the learning curve when it comes to sports. Maybe this is one way autism is a superpower. Pretty much everything in movement is breath and core. Master these 2 things, and you can do just about any physical activity, regardless of your age.
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Hate team-sports, but have always been good at other sports. However, I didn't really like it much, until I found circus. I did that for years, on an elite-level for the last period. It's something about the huge sense of achievement I get from landing a new trick, and adrenaline from doing dangerous stuff high up in the air. That's the first place I've been good at cooperating as well. I did hand-to-hand acrobatics for a while, where it's all about trusting your partner, and loads and loads of touching them! It's the only time that hasn't been uncomfortable for me (except for sexual relationships. Those are fine too).
I am quite frustrated that I can't do it anymore, partly because of injuries but mostly because I get too overwhelmed by the circus world. There's a lot of travelling, partying, financial instability, and so much touching! Gee, those people just love massage-circles. Not for me, thanks! Also, I love the training, but hate being on a stage, which is pretty much the main requirement for being a circus artist.
I just had to choose one lifestyle over another, so I chose the safe but circus-less one.
I still practice my handstanding though, and took up running again. It's quite sufficient.
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