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GalileoAce
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12 Jan 2006, 2:25 am

Umm... What?



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17 Jan 2006, 9:26 am

Serissa wrote:
This is not meant to be a rant, exactly, but simply to point out a definite trend of what nearly amounts to prejudice.

I find it kind of funny and kind of sad that so many people can be personally offended if someone is a vegan or a vegetarian and immediately demand a convincing argument in favor of their food choices. ((I'm not a vegan, I am a vegetarian, but I can still speak from personal experience on the basic point I'm making.)) If I were to say "I never eat oatmeal" then I doubt it would get the same reaction as "I never eat meat."

I Fully agree!

I will lay down my convictions on why I eventually decided to be a Vegetarian (or Vegan, I did not really decide yet). Those are simply that I am fed up of hearong about those meat-boune diseases. (This decision was taken in Early 2006, when I finally applied it)

This world makes it such that there is overproduction of meatstock (hence for meatstock we have to slaughter livestock), [and mass consumption (hence requiring mass production)] making that our sources more become vulnerable to diseases.

For many years we keep hearing about the very same diseases. So, now I am going towards the Veggie side (and in my point of view let those non veggie guys talk all they want, they will not change my eating habits ! !)

Note: I am also appalled by the mass slaughtering, no doubt about that, but for me, again, it is the meat-borne diseases, and not the slaughtering that we should be worried about. (Still, among the people whom I say I became a Vegetarian ... will not believe their ears and say , what, you ! !! A vegeratian ! you are already so slim ! !! (as for them healthy eaters Nedd good meat dishes !))

PS: As for being a vegetatrian, I Will opt to be fully (yet I can't be Vegan, because I do eat from time to time dairy products!) and really not eat the "hidden" meat substances, as those gelatins we find in the candy industry, etc...

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17 Jan 2006, 9:46 am

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Eat meat, sink a fleet. Be a vegetarian, hospitalize the one and only Hungarian. Be a vegan, cut short the life of the one who isn't Reagan.

Regan, as in Late Ronald Regan the Ex-US president and movie Actor :?:

Because if so, I believe it is Regan, and not Reagan ... (correct me if I am wrong !)



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17 Jan 2006, 10:02 am

Might I add (thought most probably already know this), that if you choose to remove meat, and/or animal products from your diet, you should find an adequate dietary replacement for the proteins (et al) that meat provides. But don't worry, there are many and varied sources or replacements that are not meat products...And not soy.

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17 Jan 2006, 10:28 am

Indeed, and as Fish being one of another (non meat, and soy) source for protein. As I like fish, to a certain extent (as it is a non-contaminated food source) thid can provide a balance in some of the Vegetarian's equilibrated diet... (Lentils are an other example of good vegetables to eat which may account for some of the protein intake)

But for those who do not like killing of being to eat them, fish stocks are also not spared (e.g. for the tuna industry countless amounts of dolphins are unnecessarilly killed just for us to enjoy the tuna we so crave for!!)



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17 Jan 2006, 11:12 am

I tend to eat Coley and pollack for environmental reasons, rather than cod and other fish.

If somethings being driven into extinction then imo its time to stop eating it, tolerance of other peoples choices goes out the window.



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17 Jan 2006, 11:13 am

Duku wrote:
Because if so, I believe it is Regan, and not Reagan ... (correct me if I am wrong !)


I believe the correct etymology is Ray-Gun.



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17 Jan 2006, 11:58 am

Indeed, all this depending what the context is. (After all we maybe both right)

Regan, Ray-Gun, or Reagan, maybe sound similar, yet all mean different thing :wink:

PS: We eat mostly local fish, because they are freshest (imported products can't always be garanteed to be 100% fresh). But vegetarianism doesn't always involve eating FRESH foods, if we don't usually eat vegetable or fuit (as some processed non-meat sources may also be good food sources, though not as healthy as the natuaral, fresh and biologically grown food products).



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13 Feb 2006, 4:53 pm

The video at http://www.meat.org finally did it for me.

Now all I say at the table is, 'I don't like meat that much.'



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18 Feb 2006, 12:59 pm

It happened again. I mentioned to a freind that I don't eat meat and he rmom walked in and started in on me. "But why are you a vegetarian?" "It's completely arbitrary." ((Translation: f**k off.)) "But WHY are you a vegitarian? I would never depreive myself of something I wanted." ((Yeah, that's why you're about to hit the bottle and have a cigarette, lady.)) "I never liked meat much anyway."

AAAAGGGHHHHH!! !! I definitely strongly dislike that girls' mom. She was not sober when I was visiting and was acting totally obnoxious/dumb (as in, acting as if she was dumb). I hate being around people who are under the influence.

EDIT: GOD did that come off bitchy. Oh well, she geniunely upset me and she'll never know I'm whining about it behind her back. Yeah. That's my justification. ((And I feel better.))



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18 Feb 2006, 1:15 pm

Blimey you do encounter some stupid people there Serissa. I'd probably be a veggie too if i didn't like my fish so much



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18 Feb 2006, 1:36 pm

animallover wrote:

2) I was at a flea market in the middle of East Texas where vegans are as mythical as unicorns ...



This makes me laugh---not at you, though, but because I am a Texan, and that is pretty much true. I am not a vegetarian myself (mostly because I cannot stand the texture of most vegetables), and I am a huge fan of barbeque (Texas style, of course!) It doesn't ever bother me that people don't eat meat, except when they go off on me for enjoying a steak or hamburger.

I think it's a personal choice, and unless it starts affecting my ability to eat what I want, I leave it well enough alone. When we have family get-togethers, we always make something for my cousin, a vegetarian, to eat. I don't think it bothers anyone, since they've been making accomodations for my own picky eating habits since I can remember.

And I get the same type of questions when people find out I dislike vegetables.

"What do you mean, you onions? And lettuce? What do you mean they feel funny? But you eat tomato sauce, why don't you eat sliced tomatoes? How do you get all your vitamins? Are you crazy? How come you eat carrots and potatoes but not s or peppers?" And so on and so forth.

I still don't understand the big deal.


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18 Feb 2006, 7:42 pm

dexkaden wrote:
This makes me laugh---not at you, though, but because I am a Texan, and that is pretty much true. I am not a vegetarian myself (mostly because I cannot stand the texture of most vegetables), and I am a huge fan of barbeque (Texas style, of course!) It doesn't ever bother me that people don't eat meat, except when they go off on me for enjoying a steak or hamburger.

I think it's a personal choice, and unless it starts affecting my ability to eat what I want, I leave it well enough alone. When we have family get-togethers, we always make something for my cousin, a vegetarian, to eat. I don't think it bothers anyone, since they've been making accomodations for my own picky eating habits since I can remember.

And I get the same type of questions when people find out I dislike vegetables.

"What do you mean, you onions? And lettuce? What do you mean they feel funny? But you eat tomato sauce, why don't you eat sliced tomatoes? How do you get all your vitamins? Are you crazy? How come you eat carrots and potatoes but not s or peppers?" And so on and so forth.

I still don't understand the big deal.


Sounds like you like the same vegetables I do! (And hate the same ones too, save for lettuce- and then I only really eat then stuff when it's drowned in feta or parmesan. If it's the latter I close my eyes and think pasta.))



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07 Aug 2006, 2:20 pm

The problem I have with vegetables is I cannot digest cellulose well. I love tomato sauce and V8 though. Potatoes I can handle, well some anyway, but those are more of a starch. And mashed is best when it's not in French Fry form. The cellulose has to be gone or processed basically. The "Raw is SOOOOO good for you" crowd really gets to me, because for me...it isn't!



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15 Aug 2006, 7:39 pm

I love vegetarians. The more meat you don't eat, the more there is for me.



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16 Aug 2006, 6:11 am

^^ what an as*hole :roll:

Animallover, you can't be a Vegan if you still eat cheese, d'oh, that's the entire POINT of Veganism 8O . Also the margarine you describe as having on a potato ('ok instead of butter') - might have contained all manner of nasty, cruelly obtained animal ingredients.

Anyway, I sometimes get hassled for being Vegan - I really don't think Vegetarianism is that uncommon now, but Veganism still is. I suppose with so many arrogant as*holes around (see above post for details) who ONLY care about themselves and not about the rape, tourture and mutilation of our non-human friends, some people will find it unsetttling that there are people who really care about animals.

Why it is anyone else's business or problem that I am Vegan beats me - I think it's because some people assume that Vegans feel morally superior (hmm, actually, I do!! :lol: ).