Are you fully vaccinated for COVID-19?

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So your fears about the vaccine harming you have no actual basis, since you've done no research on it at all, and you have also done nothing to fact check those fears. By the way, how would you "psych yourself up to get it when it's confirmed safe in a few months" if you don't actually pay attention to any information given about the vaccine?

I doubt that anyone does; however, the government did not make the vaccines.That is what you think.  New methods for vaccine production have been developed in recent year that have sped up the process.How many is "A Lot"?  Were these effect caused by hidden pre-existing conditions?  Do you have any of those conditions?Stop listening to conspiracy theories.  The people who repeat them have no idea what they are talking about -- they are just repeating what some other equally-ignorant person has told them.I am worried that the coronavirus will continue to mutate in unvaccinated people and produce a variant that will require a whole new vaccine.Link to valid source, please?

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I'll just leave this here - https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Main takeaway (my emphasis):

They're safe...
People get minor bodily aches and headaches every day for all sorts of tiny reasons.

↑ I think some people are just afraid that getting the jabs will hurt.

News Flash: They do hurt, but only about as much as a small splinter.  After a few seconds, it is over.

They gave me a free cookie and a juice box, too!

^ Mine (2 x AstraZeneca) didn't even hurt - not even the typical "sharp scratch" warning usually given before injections by the more friendly nurses.

I do not like needles and always find something terribly interesting on the other side of the room to stare at - but these injections? Psh, 'twas nothing. Really, nothing.
Didn't get a juice box though!

The injections didn't even sting like some other vaccines have when they're administered. I was actually surprised because it was one of the most benign vaccine experiences I've had so far...

Surprised me too, and I commented on it at the time. But seeing the tiny short and very fine needle afterwards explained it, I thought.

I had another unrelated injection a couple of months later - ah yes, that's more like it: definitely a sharp scratch indeed, and with blood on the dressing too.
The Covid vaccination didn't need any sort of dressing/cover.

I have experienced worse paper cuts!

I had my second jab on Saturday. It's starting to become increasingly obvious though that they seem far less effective than they were initially made out to be and I think off little use with preventing mutations too. I think anyone under the age of 50 doesn't need one as it's clear they provide no "herd immunity" whatsoever.

It's the effectiveness of the vaccines that keeps the hospitalisation rate very low, and the death rate even lower.
Currently it's a pandemic among the unvaccinated only.

The UK is about to make all that very clear, thanks to the PM's populist recklessness of dropping all precautions while the daily infection rate is increasing almost vertically - and that's only going to get much, much worse.

Getting the coronavirus vaccines is certainly more effective than not getting the vaccine, and the mutations are occurring in people who are not vaccinated.

A vaccine does not work in people who do not receive it.

For a mutation to occur, I thought the virus needed to jump from host to host and it's certainly having no issues with making fully vaccinated people hosts.

You thought wrong.  For a vaccine to mutate, it needs to stay long enough in a host for the mutation to occur during replication, and a host cell (of which there are literally trillions in humans) is required for replication.

Vaccines inhibit the replication process -- no replication, no mutation.  It is as simple as that.

It does a great job of stopping serious illness, but disruption to its life cycle apparently not. The UK government seems to have developed very cold feet all of a sudden because of how little impact the vaccine is having at preventing replication.

Replication in fact is out of control in the UK and we have had a brilliant vaccine drive.

Wrong again.  While life-cycle disruption occurs in people who have received the vaccine, it does not occur in people who have not.  Unless everyone receives a vaccine, the virus will continue to spread and mutate.The vaccine is having little impact in the U.K. because few people in the U.K. are willing to take it.  Again, unless everyone receives a vaccine, the virus will continue to spread and mutate.Obviously, not brilliant enough -- while the vaccines are effective, they will not work in people who refuse to receive them, and unless everyone receives a vaccine, the virus will continue to spread and mutate.

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It's out of control among the unvaccinated, nowhere else.