Were you physically fit as a teenager?

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It's still a lifestyle choice. And yes, uneducated people are USUALLY lazier than educated ones.

You're responsible for buying healthy food you can afford; it's not the governments duty.

Scientific understanding of the determinants of a person's weight are and always have involved dozens of variables. In other threads, you've demonstrated your ignorance about such basic concepts of food deserts and flat-out declared everyone has access to healthy food. That type of dogmatic fantasy has all the credibility of Young Earth Creationism.


What's that have to do with anything?


I have no clue where you live where produce is cheap as opposed to packaged processed food that's many times the calories.
Of the things which do provide adequate nutrition, they're usually things which require a lot of prep which most people are too exhausted for after working two or three wage jobs. They go to something quick, cheap, and that satisfies their food cravings. It's much easier to spend an hour cooking after a day in an air-conditioned office than a day + overtime working overtime in a minimum wage job.


Urm. You...you...have no understanding of what we're talking about, do you? Individuals of certain races are far more likely PROPORTIONALLY to be overweight or obese. No one said anything about "everyone" within any race being obese. O_o Handedness is related to sex. Does that mean ALL males are left-handed? Don't play stupid.

At what cost? Sometimes people simply don't WANT to flagellate themselves into an ideal they didn't create to make other people happy. It isn't worth it to them. I was far happier and healthier when I was obese, myself, as opposed to what's required for me to be thin. To me, it's irrelevant why my physiology is the way it is. The bottom line for me is that I'm not convinced of the inherent value of hours of exercise a day and eating practically nothing, which is what I've learned over a decade of trial and error is required for me to not become obese. At 215, I was more fertile than I am now at 115.

Such is why pretending we're talking about "health" will always illicit a few laughs. Let's talk about ACTUAL MARKERS OF HEALTH, like blood pressure, cholesterol, glucose, and physical fitness, as opposed to how much space someone takes up.

Obesity kills people? I have to see this. Link. (To save you some time, obesity-related factors, IE, diseases CORRELATED with obesity due to both being the result of exogenous variables, is not evidence.)


No, because people who stereotype millions of people only see what they want to see.


Wait. We've figured out what the hell constitutes an "ideal" weight for people? When was this?
You're strawmanning. The fact that the modern (and historical) understanding of weight includes far, far more than your absurdly-simplistic, black-and-white declarations doesn't constitute saying "genetics are singlehandedly responsible for...weight problems".

Wow. I want to pause for a moment and absorb this.



























Okay.

So you do know food prices globally are astronomical at the moment? What does it mean to be declared "responsible" for buying healthy food when many people have no money with which to buy food AT ALL? There are people here who regularly have to choose between food and medication/electricity. You live in some sort of bubble.

^ Agreed.

Who are you calling a young earth creationist? You're the one making up claims with no scientific basis. Every American has access to healthy food as long as he/she is employed.



Fat people often like blaming it on thyroid problems without consulting a physician.



The US has some of the lowest food prices in the world, I've checked this myself.



Pouring milk into a bowl of oatmeal, peeling a banana or using a can opener on a can of tuna is time consuming? I'll tell you whats time consuming: Finding a parking space at McDonald's and then waiting in the line in front of the cash register.



Asian men and women eat chicken sallad while white people stuff their face with burgers and drink soda, hence the difference in weight.



If they took the stairs instead of the elevator, didn't drink soda every day and spent less than five hours watching TV every day, they'd never ecome like that in the first place.



Just because you aren't doesn't mean that other women aren't more fertile after reaching an ideal weight.



By all means, let's. I have a resting heart rate of 50, compared to 68 back when I was obese.



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The burden of proof is on you. Show me an obese person who've completed a marathon in less than five hours.



22—32% body fat in women. This is the widely accepted range by dieticians and other professionals.



Strawmaning? You just claimed that you'd get fat from eating more than 300 calories, thus you're implying you're genetics are responsible.

The US has very low food prices still. You even claimed so in another post. You can choose between gourmet food and electricity or you can buy groceries and afford the electricity bill just fine. The Cash for the Clunkers program where people destroyed mint condition Cadillacs, BMW M5s, Mercedes AMGs and Porsche 928s to get a 4500 dollar rebate on a brand new car is a living proof of this.

Guess what? You pay one quarter of what a Dane pays per kilowatt, yet you don't earn less with a college degree. Even in a minimum wage job, chicken, eggs, tuna, milk and all that is cheap as fuark.

Any chance of keeping this thread on topic?

Some people like beating a dead horse; if science says that the earth is spherical, these people say it's flat beause they perceive it as flat.

I was a bean pole growing up, but still very athletic. When I was 18-19, my mom threatened to put me into therapy if I lost any more weight, but I ate all the time. I was just always active. It wasn't until I was 24 that I started gaining weight after taking on a full-time desk job and eating Toosie Roles all day long. It's been a slow gain, and I'm now to the point that I'm getting back into being active and losing the weight again - although perusing this forum for hours at a time isn't doing me any favors.

I was skinny as a kid & teenager due to being an extremely picky eater(my family was worried I might have to be hospitalized & fed by IV tubes as an infant & baby because I refused to eat anything) & I was physically weak because I didn't exercise; I hated being outside for lots of reasons & I really needed to spend my time having fun in my room watching TV or playing video-games because I was extremely stressed out & overwhelmed from school stuff. I started getting more in shape when I started working in my early 20s but I started gaining a little weight because I ate junk-food & fast-food a lot & I was on psych meds. I became more physically unfit when I quit working because I wasn't as active & some of the meds I was on made me sleepy & very hungry. I'm a little overweight now & trying to be more active around the house.

Yes I swam and jogged in high school and exercised in college. My main hobby is exercise and I really rather enjoy it.

When I was in elementary school I used to watch the kids participating in track and field. I never participated. I was obligated to but I think I got out of it probably because my slow, non-participatory perfomances got me an exemption. I was simply wasting the other students' time.

In HS, this trend continued. There were the obligatory dreaded gym classes (PE). The coaches didn't stress me because by that time I was already wearing coke bottle glasses, and because I was a little asthmatic, they pretty much left me alone.

I did get into gymnastics in the 11th and 12th grade, but by then it was too late to excel. It was something I would've had to have gotten into as a child to be any good. I'd gotten into it because it was similar to ballet. The ultra-nerd in me did want to be a ballet dancer, but coming from a ghetto neighbourhood, this was an impossibility.

Oh yes. So many dreams. So many hopes smashed.

I'm still fairly fit but not nearly what I used to be. In my freshman year of high school I ran a mile in under 6 minutes. I bet I couldn't even come close to that now, at least not without starting to train again.

Well gymnastics is a bit harder to do when you're older, but ballet still could be a possibility. For me, I'm dealing with a similar scenario for figure skating, generally getting into it at my age as a male, you can't get far, but I'm managing to do quite well all things considered.
Most of what made me at the level I'm at now is rather obsessive reading and smart off ice practice. None of the bosu balls and crunches crap, I started doing squats, deadlifts and OL lifting, and that brought my strength up really well, as far as stroking power is concerned, not to sound too braggy, but my power is about as good as a fairly high level guy my age who's been skating basically his whole life. It's a little known secret that ballerinas, figure skaters, etc, all train with weights, mostly the basic compound movements.

Just saying, you don't gotta give up. I know guys and women who are 70 years old, and started ice dancing in their 50s or 60s. So for ballet, I'm assuming it's similar.

So to the topic, I was generally unfit on my early teenage years. I liked doing crunches and sit-ups at home, and coupled with a low amount of body fat I had a six pack outline that made me feel better about myself. When I was 15 I started doing pull-ups, and went from doing none to doing around 6. When I was 16 I started playing football and volleyball consistently, which gave me better stamina and reflexes. When I was 17 I started going to the gym, which gave me more strength and lean body mass. Now I'm more athletic than average, although I've been slacking off lately. I still remember that I used to think sports was something not worth doing, but an event in my life made me seek to be a more complete individual, so I began.