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19 Jul 2021, 3:36 pm
I didn't read the whole thread so I am not sure if this has been posted yet or not but in case it has not 
CDC, FDA contradict Pfizer on COVID-19 vaccine booster
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... ne-booster
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) late yesterday contradicted vaccine makers Pfizer-BioNTech on their assertion that people who received the two-dose mRNA vaccine will likely need a third booster dose of vaccine within 6 to 12 months of initial administration.
Pfizer said it was working on developing a new mRNA vaccine that targets rising variants of concern, including Delta (B1617.2). They also said initial small trial results show a third booster dose of the current vaccine raised antibodies to variants, including Delta and Beta.
"While Pfizer and BioNTech believe a third dose of BNT162b2 has the potential to preserve the highest levels of protective efficacy against all currently known variants including Delta, the companies are remaining vigilant and are developing an updated version of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine that targets the full spike protein of the Delta variant," Pfizer-BioNTech said in a press release yesterday.
In an interview with Reuters, Pfizer's chief scientific officer, Mikael Dolsten, MD, PhD, said recent evidence from Israel shows waning protection 6 months after vaccine recipients had completed their second dose of the vaccine.
"It's a small data set, but I think the trend is accurate: Six months out, given that Delta is the most contagious variant we have seen, it can cause infections and mild disease," Dolsten said of the evidence from Israel. He said his company would be submitting data to the FDA by the end of the month to request authorization of a booster dose.
But late yesterday afternoon CDC and FDA issued their own statement.
"Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot at this time," the federal agencies said. "We continue to review any new data as it becomes available and will keep the public informed. We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed."
Michael T. Osterholm, PhD, MPH, director of the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, publisher of CIDRAP News, said he personally and professionally supports the message from the CDC and FDA, but he wishes companies and government agencies could better coordinate messages in the future.
"The events of the past day only add to the public's confusion about whether we in the public health community and vaccine communities have our act together, and that's terribly unfortunate, because it only undercuts our ability to promote these vaccines," he said.
"This is not a matter of inconvenience; this is a matter of public credibility."
States tackle Delta rise
The United States reported 20,061 new COVID-19 cases yesterday, and 257 deaths, according to the Johns Hopkins COVID-19 tracker.
In Missouri, which is one of the country's biggest Delta hot spots, Gov. Mike Parson said he doesn't want government employees going door-to-door to encourage people to get vaccinated, the Associated Press reports. Earlier this week President Biden said the federal government would be focused on smaller, community efforts to vaccinate hesitant Americans, including knocking on doors.
"I have directed our health department to let the federal government know that sending government employees or agents door-to-door to compel vaccination would NOT be an effective OR a welcome strategy in Missouri!" he tweeted. Missouri is averaging more than 1,000 new cases per day, up from 650 in June.
Local health officials say Los Angeles County is seeing exponential growth of COVID-19 cases as the Delta variant takes over as the dominant strain, according to CNN. The case rate in the county jumped from 1.74 to 3.5 cases per 100,000 people in one week.
Other US developments
Pressure is growing for the FDA to grant full approval to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines to help convince more Americans to get their shots, Politico reported.
Today in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report are two reports on adolescents and COVID-19. The first details an outbreak caused by the Delta variant at an Oklahoma gymnastics facility in April and May. The outbreak included 21 laboratory-confirmed Delta cases and 26 epidemiologically linked cases, with overall facility and household attack rates of 20% and 53%, respectively.
The second study was on vaccine uptake in adolescents. In April, 52% of unvaccinated adolescents aged 13 to 17 years and 56% of parents of unvaccinated adolescents aged 12 to 17 years reported intent for adolescent COVID-19 vaccination. Concerns about safety and side effects were the biggest barriers to vaccination.
Pfizer said it was working on developing a new mRNA vaccine that targets rising variants of concern, including Delta (B1617.2). They also said initial small trial results show a third booster dose of the current vaccine raised antibodies to variants, including Delta and Beta.
"While Pfizer and BioNTech believe a third dose of BNT162b2 has the potential to preserve the highest levels of protective efficacy against all currently known variants including Delta, the companies are remaining vigilant and are developing an updated version of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine that targets the full spike protein of the Delta variant," Pfizer-BioNTech said in a press release yesterday.
In an interview with Reuters, Pfizer's chief scientific officer, Mikael Dolsten, MD, PhD, said recent evidence from Israel shows waning protection 6 months after vaccine recipients had completed their second dose of the vaccine.
"It's a small data set, but I think the trend is accurate: Six months out, given that Delta is the most contagious variant we have seen, it can cause infections and mild disease," Dolsten said of the evidence from Israel. He said his company would be submitting data to the FDA by the end of the month to request authorization of a booster dose.
But late yesterday afternoon CDC and FDA issued their own statement.
"Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot at this time," the federal agencies said. "We continue to review any new data as it becomes available and will keep the public informed. We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed."
Michael T. Osterholm, PhD, MPH, director of the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, publisher of CIDRAP News, said he personally and professionally supports the message from the CDC and FDA, but he wishes companies and government agencies could better coordinate messages in the future.
"The events of the past day only add to the public's confusion about whether we in the public health community and vaccine communities have our act together, and that's terribly unfortunate, because it only undercuts our ability to promote these vaccines," he said.
"This is not a matter of inconvenience; this is a matter of public credibility."
States tackle Delta rise
The United States reported 20,061 new COVID-19 cases yesterday, and 257 deaths, according to the Johns Hopkins COVID-19 tracker.
In Missouri, which is one of the country's biggest Delta hot spots, Gov. Mike Parson said he doesn't want government employees going door-to-door to encourage people to get vaccinated, the Associated Press reports. Earlier this week President Biden said the federal government would be focused on smaller, community efforts to vaccinate hesitant Americans, including knocking on doors.
"I have directed our health department to let the federal government know that sending government employees or agents door-to-door to compel vaccination would NOT be an effective OR a welcome strategy in Missouri!" he tweeted. Missouri is averaging more than 1,000 new cases per day, up from 650 in June.
Local health officials say Los Angeles County is seeing exponential growth of COVID-19 cases as the Delta variant takes over as the dominant strain, according to CNN. The case rate in the county jumped from 1.74 to 3.5 cases per 100,000 people in one week.
Other US developments
Pressure is growing for the FDA to grant full approval to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines to help convince more Americans to get their shots, Politico reported.
Today in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report are two reports on adolescents and COVID-19. The first details an outbreak caused by the Delta variant at an Oklahoma gymnastics facility in April and May. The outbreak included 21 laboratory-confirmed Delta cases and 26 epidemiologically linked cases, with overall facility and household attack rates of 20% and 53%, respectively.
The second study was on vaccine uptake in adolescents. In April, 52% of unvaccinated adolescents aged 13 to 17 years and 56% of parents of unvaccinated adolescents aged 12 to 17 years reported intent for adolescent COVID-19 vaccination. Concerns about safety and side effects were the biggest barriers to vaccination.
When the virus got bad the medical experts were all stressing the importance of social distancing but now the government is wanting to send people door to door to get vaccinated which is completely contradictory with the whole social distancing thing they had been pushing. It's NO F#CKING WONDER LOTS of people do NOT know who or what to trust. I am not the only person who notices the hypocrisy here
19 Jul 2021, 3:45 pm
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19 Jul 2021, 4:00 pm
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19 Jul 2021, 4:06 pm
^^^i think you're prolly a lot tougher than me. 
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19 Jul 2021, 4:09 pm
auntblabby wrote:
^^^i think you're prolly a lot tougher than me.
Um...have you had a Shingles shot? That one made my arm hurt! (But I had Shingles some years before and I preferred the shot.)
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19 Jul 2021, 4:17 pm
Double Retired wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^i think you're prolly a lot tougher than me.
Um...have you had a Shingles shot? That one made my arm hurt! (But I had Shingles some years before and I preferred the shot.)most yelping shots i've had were lidocaine via 21 ga. [fat] needle in plantar surface of foot and little toes, tied with toradol shots in the keister. both those made me howl. last flu shot i got was nearly as bad, felt like fire injected into my arm, they prolly got too close to a nerve.
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19 Jul 2021, 4:47 pm
19 Jul 2021, 9:31 pm
Joe90 wrote:
How can they have been working on the vaccines for 10 years if the COVID is a new virus that only started last year? 
-This- coronavirus strain(s) is new, but coronaviruses themselves are ancient. IIRC, they started work on these vaccines during the last SARS outbreak, which is a very similar virus.
BTW, sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, that wasn't my intent. I know your phobia isn't something you can just "get over".
Joe90 wrote:
OK I'm going to keep away from this thread because I have just booked my first COVID vaccine after months of hesitation and anxiety...
Good luck!
I still need to reschedule mine. I scheduled one a couple weeks ago, forgetting that we had plans that day >_<
Knowing my luck, as soon as I schedule another one, I'll start feeling sick again...
nick007 wrote:
Two of the jobs I had involved custodial stuff & I never wore gloves even 1ce cuz I hate the feel of them & I may be allergic to latex & I did not pay much attention to washing my hands or other hygiene stuff.
Do they even make latex gloves anymore? The ones at my work, and the ones at the doctors' are always made out of nitrile, because so many people are allergic.
19 Jul 2021, 9:45 pm
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19 Jul 2021, 11:08 pm
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19 Jul 2021, 11:49 pm
Guillain-Barré syndrome [#1 side effect of the J & J vaccine for those over 50] scares the hell outta me. 
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