2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics
I been watching it and there have been some great Olympic moments for several countries. The US of course is in control of the medal count and there are some great moments for Team USA! I think some of the gold medal moments for the US will be the most memorable moments. Also of course, Team USA Men Hockey upsetting Canada on the eve of the 30th anniversary of the Miracle on Ice. Then Team USA Women Hockey redeeming itself by crushing Sweden to advance to the gold medal match with Canada under Mark Johnson, one of the members of the 1980 USA Men Hockey Team at Lake Placid.
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I had a great time watching biathlon, a sport I'm interested in taking up since it combines two things I can do. I did watch a little skeleton since the motor control those folks have is just shocking to me. As a triathlete and runner, I have to wait until the Summer Olympics for the rest of my TV sport watching.
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Team USA is "borrowing the podium" with 32 medals to date!! ! I have a feeling we could go for 40 medals! Plus a few more gold medals maybe.
http://www.nbcolympics.com/teamusa/meda ... lists.html
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um, hi, everyone.
i've been watching a little. i like seeing obscure sports on TV, like aerials, ski jumping, speed skating and luge. those people are nuts.
I'm really embarrassed by the 'own the podium' thing, tho. i think its vulgar, and set Canada up for failure and ridicule.
Would have preferred the Olympics NOT be in Canada, tho... but that's another story.
Cheers,
Luke
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The final medal table makes interesting reading.
USA won the most circular pieces of metal BUT Canada won the most Gold medals and 40% more Golds than the next highest Gold winner, Germany.
Using total medals won to determine the 'winner' means that a bronze medal and silver medal is valued the same as a gold medal. (Silver and Bronze medal winners KNOW that they have very different values to a Gold)
Using only the number of Gold medals won to determine the winner, means ignoring success of those winning silver and bronze (and these really are remarkable successes, to be the second and third best in the WORLD)
I suppose even if a 'weighting' were applied to the medal count, there would be disagreement as to the 'weightings used'.
The fact remains that the country which WON the most events and by a CLEAR margin............came third
and the country with the third highest Gold medal count, 'won' the Olympics.
In closing and in the spirit of the Olympics I would like to congratulate all three countries that have been named above for a truly outstanding perfomance.
Congratulations also go out to ALL medal winners and especially the sole medal winners from Kazakhstan, Estonia and Britain, who no doubt are national heros for single handedly putting their countries on the medal table.
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"Now thats how you play muscle up hockey ehh"
also go Australia! maybe now we can afford to buy some snow.
Canada will not win in Sochi and possibly even in this year's Ice Hockey World Championships.
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USA won the most circular pieces of metal BUT Canada won the most Gold medals and 40% more Golds than the next highest Gold winner, Germany.
Using total medals won to determine the 'winner' means that a bronze medal and silver medal is valued the same as a gold medal. (Silver and Bronze medal winners KNOW that they have very different values to a Gold)
Using only the number of Gold medals won to determine the winner, means ignoring success of those winning silver and bronze (and these really are remarkable successes, to be the second and third best in the WORLD)
I suppose even if a 'weighting' were applied to the medal count, there would be disagreement as to the 'weightings used'.
The fact remains that the country which WON the most events and by a CLEAR margin............came third

and the country with the third highest Gold medal count, 'won' the Olympics.
In closing and in the spirit of the Olympics I would like to congratulate all three countries that have been named above for a truly outstanding perfomance.
Congratulations also go out to ALL medal winners and especially the sole medal winners from Kazakhstan, Estonia and Britain, who no doubt are national heros for single handedly putting their countries on the medal table.
I would have to disagree with you because medaling in any event is a great achievement because Lindsay Vonn won a gold and bronze medal is redemption for her from Torino.
Bode Miller getting a full set of medals when he got none in Torino.
Hannah Kearney winning the Gold medal is complete redemption for her since she didn't qualified for the finals back in Torino when she was the gold medal favorite.
Jeret "Speedy" Peterson screw up his chance of winning a medal in Torino and he redeemed himself with taking the silver medal in Vancouver.
Also I disagree with Canada "won" the Winter Olympics because yes they did win the most gold medals. However, those gold medals are outweighed by the fact that Team USA won the overall count which each medal was equally weighted by achievement.
So in reality, overall matters to me than gold because earning an Olympic Medal is a life achievement for anyone. Also just being at the Olympics and competing is an experience of a lifetime.
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Bode Miller getting a full set of medals when he got none in Torino.
Hannah Kearney winning the Gold medal is complete redemption for her since she didn't qualified for the finals back in Torino when she was the gold medal favorite.
Jeret "Speedy" Peterson screw up his chance of winning a medal in Torino and he redeemed himself with taking the silver medal in Vancouver.
Also I disagree with Canada "won" the Winter Olympics because yes they did win the most gold medals. However, those gold medals are outweighed by the fact that Team USA won the overall count which each medal was equally weighted by achievement.
So in reality, overall matters to me than gold because earning an Olympic Medal is a life achievement for anyone. Also just being at the Olympics and competing is an experience of a lifetime.
Hello Jerry and thanks for sharing your opinion on medal tallying at the Olympics.
I'm not quite sure which part of my post you are disagreeing with but I did make a special effort to acknowledge the remarkable achievement of silver and bronze medal winners (regardless of nationality)
I also made a special effort to acknowledge the teams who are formally acknowledged as finishing in the first three places as well as ALL medal winners at the competition, regardless of nationality.
Congratulations also go out to ALL medal winners and especially the sole medal winners from Kazakhstan, Estonia and Britain, who no doubt are national heros for single handedly putting their countries on the medal table.
We BOTH seem to agree that Canada won the most Golds and we BOTH seem to agree that the USA won the most medals.
The only thing that I can possibly think of that you might disagree with, is that there is an alternative and legitimate viewpoint to that which you hold about exactly which method should be used for determining the winner of the Olympics.
I note that your location is given as the beautiful state of Virginia and so I can certainly understand if perhaps you feel offended that anyone (including me) would suggest anything that might be construed by you as diminishing the outstanding performance of your country's achievement at the Olympics and it was outstanding.
This was not my intention and if you had made such a posting if MY home country had won the Olympics, without winning the most Golds, I would have found NOTHING to disagree on with you.
I am not a citizen of the US, Canada or Germany and nor do I live in any of these three countries.
I didn't actually watch the Olympics. In fact I don't watch much sport at all; I prefer to participate in (non-team) sport.
I was just giving an analysis of the results based on the mathematical FACTS (facts that we both seem to agree on

Whatever your opinion is I can assure you that how the winner of the Olympics is determined is NOT a black and white issue (and so can be quite polarizing, not unlike politics)
I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A FIRM OPINION ON HOW THE WINNER SHOULD BE DETERMINED, so I'm afraid we don't have a point of disagreement.
I'd like to congratulate you on the fine looking ladies in your Avatar. You also look like a bear of a man; what sports do you participate in?
Enjoy your celebrations and remember Estonia and Kazakhstan, (two countries that most people probably could not find on a map), whose sole medal successes are perhaps (and perhaps not.........) a greater source of pride for Estonians and Kazakhs than the US winning the Olympics yet again, is to you.
Nice display of encyclopaedic knowlege on sports event.

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Bode Miller getting a full set of medals when he got none in Torino.
Hannah Kearney winning the Gold medal is complete redemption for her since she didn't qualified for the finals back in Torino when she was the gold medal favorite.
Jeret "Speedy" Peterson screw up his chance of winning a medal in Torino and he redeemed himself with taking the silver medal in Vancouver.
Also I disagree with Canada "won" the Winter Olympics because yes they did win the most gold medals. However, those gold medals are outweighed by the fact that Team USA won the overall count which each medal was equally weighted by achievement.
So in reality, overall matters to me than gold because earning an Olympic Medal is a life achievement for anyone. Also just being at the Olympics and competing is an experience of a lifetime.
Hello Jerry and thanks for sharing your opinion on medal tallying at the Olympics.
I'm not quite sure which part of my post you are disagreeing with but I did make a special effort to acknowledge the remarkable achievement of silver and bronze medal winners (regardless of nationality)
I also made a special effort to acknowledge the teams who are formally acknowledged as finishing in the first three places as well as ALL medal winners at the competition, regardless of nationality.
Congratulations also go out to ALL medal winners and especially the sole medal winners from Kazakhstan, Estonia and Britain, who no doubt are national heros for single handedly putting their countries on the medal table.
We BOTH seem to agree that Canada won the most Golds and we BOTH seem to agree that the USA won the most medals.
The only thing that I can possibly think of that you might disagree with, is that there is an alternative and legitimate viewpoint to that which you hold about exactly which method should be used for determining the winner of the Olympics.
I note that your location is given as the beautiful state of Virginia and so I can certainly understand if perhaps you feel offended that anyone (including me) would suggest anything that might be construed by you as diminishing the outstanding performance of your country's achievement at the Olympics and it was outstanding.
This was not my intention and if you had made such a posting if MY home country had won the Olympics, without winning the most Golds, I would have found NOTHING to disagree on with you.
I am not a citizen of the US, Canada or Germany and nor do I live in any of these three countries.
I didn't actually watch the Olympics. In fact I don't watch much sport at all; I prefer to participate in (non-team) sport.
I was just giving an analysis of the results based on the mathematical FACTS (facts that we both seem to agree on

Whatever your opinion is I can assure you that how the winner of the Olympics is determined is NOT a black and white issue (and so can be quite polarizing, not unlike politics)
I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A FIRM OPINION ON HOW THE WINNER SHOULD BE DETERMINED, so I'm afraid we don't have a point of disagreement.
I'd like to congratulate you on the fine looking ladies in your Avatar. You also look like a bear of a man; what sports do you participate in?
Enjoy your celebrations and remember Estonia and Kazakhstan, (two countries that most people probably could not find on a map), whose sole medal successes are perhaps (and perhaps not.........) a greater source of pride for Estonians and Kazakhs than the US winning the Olympics yet again, is to you.
Nice display of encyclopaedic knowlege on sports event.

I am not really disagreeing with your statement here. I just find a mathematical approach to viewing the Games is not right. I am saying this because as an athlete in six different sports, numbers hold a limited view on me. Yes numbers are used to determine winners but in reality what determines the athletes? As I see it, athletes are determining by skill, passion, belief, determination, willpower and heart. Those six elements come together and form what an athlete is capable of achieving. Therefore, every Olympian is a winner because they all achieved something at the Games regardless of medaling in an event or not.
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ok, i know that really shouldn't be funny, but i think it's pretty funny. OF COURSE they were dancing in the street, silly!
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ok, i know that really shouldn't be funny, but i think it's pretty funny. OF COURSE they were dancing in the street, silly!
-Luke
This actually brings back vivid memories from almost 28 years ago.
I was in Montreal when Italy won the World Cup (World Soccer Cup for Americans reading this)
The city was in a complete gridlock of cars each of which seemed to have a flag extending from a window.
There was little chance of being hit by cars that were almost stationery.
I was fluent in Italian at the time and enjoyed a great evening, as well as the Jazz Festival during the same week.
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