Statheads or scouts....spectrum ppl or nts?

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06 Feb 2013, 2:23 pm

I would like to discuss the statheads versus scouts (anti-statheads) which is a supposed dichotomy in baseball. my background is equestrian and we have this variation in the reportage as well. Consequently PR and news are in the same category. there is hostility to science, in some cases active science denial in all its forms

so here are some quotes-

"But a secondary message, which should have gotten through long ago but still escapes many writers, is that for all of the "inside access" journalists boast about, for all of the stuff "mere bloggers" (I will leave aside the mom's basement stuff aside for now) do not know (and there is plenty), these "nerds" are getting hired, over and over again, to work inside baseball. That is, _really_ inside baseball, on team decision-making and data, not just how players behave in the clubhouse or who gives the best quotes or who gets the best anonymous, responsibility-free quotes from club executives."
http://sulia.com/channel/baseball/f/7c7 ... ce=twitter

"Matt Klaassen noted Dan’s hiring today. And he makes one hell of a point: for as much crap as the sabermetic and bloggy-types take from the mainstream media about how they don’t truly know the game because they’re not out there at the park or interviewing players in clubhouses and stuff, ain’t it funny how the sabermetric and bloggy types are continually hired by major league teams to work in baseball operations? And did you notice that teams never hire the guys who claim to know so much more about baseball and who continually slam advanced metrics and statistical analysis?"
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/ ... something/

personally this is an unanswered question for me. in my sport most of the ppl are scouts, even non journos- like 99%! !! so it is not so simple to be a stathead. another way of putting it is "anti-statheads"-Jocks or scouts or Tetlock's hedgehogs or PR-driven "inside access" journalists

in contrast to statheads or Nerds or Tetlock's foxes. it is very unfortunate when ppl from each perspective don't communicate.

so i wonder why the jocks or scouts or hedgehogs don't trust the statheads or nerds or foxes

in some cases the anti-statheads mentioned in the second quote actively seem to hate the nerds. why? i like the anti-statheads, i never interfere with their activity. we do different stuff but they still h8

in health journalism at least they can accurately define and recognize the meaning of causality



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