Growth hormone=low insulin=strength without food?

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04 May 2014, 5:26 pm

http://breakingmuscle.com/strength-c...getting-bigger

according to this and numerous other sources, strength comes from neural connections, right? So if I don't find the need of getting huge over getting stronger...I don't have to raise my insulin to grow muscle. The reason I propose no food is because Growth Hormone does not coexist well with insulin, right?
Like, I feel it as well. But today and yesterday, I did intermittent fasting (mostly, a few cheerios/chex mix here and there, but nothing over even 1/2 cup total),yesterday was fine, but I went to train today, and I was SO TIRED...I thought it was lack of carbs, but possibly it might have been testosterone or something else...I mean I need energy for training, but I don't want to kill all my GH production. I hear you can train your body to use fat rather than carbs for fuel.


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04 May 2014, 5:35 pm

There's nothing magical about intermittent fasting; it just helps you control your caloric intake and your hunger better. Do what works best for you. You can increase your testosterone level by getting enough B vitamins, zink, magnesium, hdl cholesterol, and unsaturated fat.


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04 May 2014, 5:35 pm

Kurgan wrote:
There's nothing magical about intermittent fasting; it just helps you control your caloric intake and your hunger better. Do what works best for you. You can increase your testosterone level by getting enough B vitamins, zink, magnesium, hdl cholesterol, and unsaturated fat.


I'm trying to keep GH high, and more strength progress


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04 May 2014, 5:37 pm

Kurgan wrote:
There's nothing magical about intermittent fasting; it just helps you control your caloric intake and your hunger better. Do what works best for you. You can increase your testosterone level by getting enough B vitamins, zink, magnesium, hdl cholesterol, and unsaturated fat.


I'm trying to keep GH high, and more strength progress...it seems that low sugar seems to keep me growing strong...there are studies on effects of GH vs insulin..that's why I am trying to avoid eating for some time


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04 May 2014, 7:52 pm

If you want to avoid spiking your insulin, avoid processed carbs. Wheat is higher on the glycemic index then pure sugar. If you want to fast, a raw juice fast (green juice, not fruit) will benefit you better than cereals. Check out the documentary "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" for more details; it's available to watch for free on Joe Cross's website.


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04 May 2014, 8:14 pm

I think fasting for health reasons is total and utter nonsense.

The reality is that we need food to function properly. Preferably in the form of a well balanced diet. Being too fat may be unhealthy but being too skinny because of a lack of nutrition is just as unhealthy for about every cell in your body. People in western societies are either too heavy or have become so obesessive about their weight in correlation to their health that this obesession is the cause of an enormous rise in the number of anorexics, whilst forgetting the fact that anorexia is even deadlier than being overweight. The only thing people have to day is eat normally and that's all there is to it.



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04 May 2014, 8:31 pm

How do you define normal? Is a pop tart normal? Grape nuts? Whole wheat toast? Three square meals a day? From an evolutionary perspective, modern eating habits are in direct contrast to our earlier, more "paleo" diet. This would include periods without food, which gives the body a rest from metabolizing substance so it can repair itself. The benefits of fasting have been a part of human knowledge for thousands of years, and only in a very tiny fraction of that time, modern society has turned all that knowledge aside, choosing instead to trust the government mandated RDA on their box of nutri-bars. Keep in mind this is the same government that says pizza sauce counts as a serving of vegetables. Really?

If you want to see real health at its finest, google Markus Rothkranz, a guy that looks better at 51 then he did in his twenties. He didn't get that from eating "normal".


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04 May 2014, 8:43 pm

People in the distant past experienced periods of fasting because they had no choice. I don't think there is hard evidence for the fact that fasting was actually benefitial for their health. Our ancestors may have been used to fasting from time to time but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is healthy for modern day people as well. There are thousands of fancy theories about what is healthy for us or not but it's all a matter of common sense in my view. Obesssing about it doesn't help.