Why do women have to comform to a certian size?

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05 Jan 2007, 1:40 am

I'm Bloody sick of it! What's even worse, is that it happens in my own family. I weigh a healthy 185 lbs, for most of the month. 190 for a week before my Period. My mum has four heavy siblings. She should know that burly, healthy people run in our family. There were also some heavyweights from my dad's side of the family. Ten years ago, when I was at 145 lbs, I was sick, five times a year.
I rarely ever get sick, these days. I get weak, when I try to follow the Points System. I was weaker, two summers ago, at 155 lbs when it came to the heat. Last summer, at 185 lbs I was able to walk 35 minutes to my Clubhouse, in the heat! That was before I've moved into my own place. My mum's famous line is, "You've done it before!" Stop with the "Positive Talk" and take a look at my reality, for once. I'm stronger, now than I was at 145 lbs, ten years ago. I think that my folks are threatened that their oldest daughter is bigger than they are, while most daughters weigh 20 lbs less than their own folks. I want them to accept me as I am.



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05 Jan 2007, 2:56 am

As long as your frame was designed to be large it's fine.

In fact, a recent study confirmed the human race has a growing divide. One type will become a DnD style Dwarf species and the other will get taller and thinner.



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05 Jan 2007, 6:05 am

I can agree with you!

However, I am quite the opposite. Skinny people run in my family. I'm desperately trying to gain weight. 2700kcal a day with up to an hour's brisk walk a day. I'm creeping very slowly up the ladder. Very slowly.


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05 Jan 2007, 6:20 am

I don't mind at all. In fact, I like my women with a bit of meat on them - obviously as long as they aren't a 500lb basket case or something like that. I can't think of many things less appealling than a stick-thin supermodel. I just tend to think "get a few good meals inside that stomach of yours, girl" instead of finding them sexually attractive. That's just my take on these matters though and each to their own.

CockneyRebel: Find the weight you feel happiest and healthiest and stick to it. Don't conform to pressure from other people. It's unhealthy and bad for you.



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05 Jan 2007, 6:46 am

I agree with you Tequila. I hate my weight and I hate my body. I'm even doing press-ups. Grrr. I am getting weighed today at the Dr.


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05 Jan 2007, 6:52 am

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I agree with you Tequila. I hate my weight and I hate my body. I'm even doing press-ups. Grrr. I am getting weighed today at the Dr.


How much do you weigh? You might be very slim but I'm a very big chap. But I don't hate my body, even though I have two spare tyres here. I want to persevere, to work with it. Work with your body, not against it. Make yourself a healthier lady. Go for a leisurely walk instead of intense exercise. And, of course, eat proper, basic, decent meals whenever you can. :)



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05 Jan 2007, 9:38 am

I think that my ideal weight is 180 lbs. Maybe 175. I'll be working with that. Those Ideal Weight Charts should b scrapped. They're a throwback to the 1930s. A lot of traditional thinkers might not like my opinion on Weight Charts. I'm sorry, but that's how I feel. Maybe it's the traditionalists who don't have any feelings. :twisted:



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05 Jan 2007, 4:20 pm

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How much do you weigh? You might be very slim but I'm a very big chap. But I don't hate my body, even though I have two spare tyres here. I want to persevere, to work with it. Work with your body, not against it. Make yourself a healthier lady. Go for a leisurely walk instead of intense exercise. And, of course, eat proper, basic, decent meals whenever you can. :)


I have psychomotor overexcitability. I have to let go and go for a manic fast walk every day otherwise I feel stiff. It is hard for me to sit at this computer for more than 1/2 an hour at once!

I am 1.63m (5ft4in)
I was originally 48kg (106lb); BMI = 18.1
At my worst point in anorexia, I was 38.5kg (85lb); BMI = 14.5 :oops:
Now I am 45kg (99lb); BMI = 16.9 :D

I'm trying to get back to my original weight, then gain a little more in muscle mass to defy the skinny, lanky, weedy look that goes down the womens' line in my family.

I eat around 2,700+ kcal a day and I am gaining around 0.5-0.8kg a week.


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09 Jan 2007, 6:56 pm

My brother takes after my mother's (German-English, although I am not suggesting anything by that :) ) side of the family. He's burly. I take after my father's side of the family (Irish-Slovak-a bit of Polish), and I am somewhat thin and rather pale. My brother also looks more like my mother and I like my father.

As for women having to conform to a certain size. I don't know. I don't think anyone should feel bad because they happen to have a large body type. I know that men tend to have their own tendencies regarding the "ideal mate," which have changed over the centuries. But fantasies cannot dictate realities. This is not to say that men won't consider physical features in looking for a women, but it would be sad if that was the only thing.



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09 Jan 2007, 7:41 pm

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I'm Bloody sick of it! What's even worse, is that it happens in my own family. I weigh a healthy 185 lbs, for most of the month. 190 for a week before my Period. My mum has four heavy siblings. She should know that burly, healthy people run in our family. There were also some heavyweights from my dad's side of the family. Ten years ago, when I was at 145 lbs, I was sick, five times a year.
I rarely ever get sick, these days. I get weak, when I try to follow the Points System. I was weaker, two summers ago, at 155 lbs when it came to the heat. Last summer, at 185 lbs I was able to walk 35 minutes to my Clubhouse, in the heat! That was before I've moved into my own place. My mum's famous line is, "You've done it before!" Stop with the "Positive Talk" and take a look at my reality, for once. I'm stronger, now than I was at 145 lbs, ten years ago. I think that my folks are threatened that their oldest daughter is bigger than they are, while most daughters weigh 20 lbs less than their own folks. I want them to accept me as I am.


well unless you're substantially more than 6 feet tall, 185 is not a very healthy weight. You may have been weaker at 155 lbs, but exercise would fix that. You shouldn't think that 185 is a healthy weight. I'm worried about you if you do as being overweight is extremely detrimental to your health in many different ways.


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09 Jan 2007, 8:09 pm

The only reason any of us should lose or gain weight is for health reasons and, to an extent, to make ourselves happy. I know that I'd feel considerably better about myself if I lost 30lbs, but at the same time, being 30lbs overweight isn't going to send me into some depressive guiltspiral.
I'm 6', weigh 240lbs and have a large frame. At one point, for various reasons, I was abusing pseudoephedrine tablets (this was about 15 years ago) and wound up going down to 175lbs. People told me I looked great but the reality was that I was inadvertently starving myself and that weight was not a healthy one for me (I was about 15-20lbs underweight). Stopped abusing the pseudoephedrine and within 2 months I was at 190 and stayed there for a couple of years.



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09 Jan 2007, 8:14 pm

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The only reason any of us should lose or gain weight is for health reasons and, to an extent, to make ourselves happy. I know that I'd feel considerably better about myself if I lost 30lbs, but at the same time, being 30lbs overweight isn't going to send me into some depressive guiltspiral.
I'm 6', weigh 240lbs and have a large frame. At one point, for various reasons, I was abusing pseudoephedrine tablets (this was about 15 years ago) and wound up going down to 175lbs. People told me I looked great but the reality was that I was inadvertently starving myself and that weight was not a healthy one for me (I was about 15-20lbs underweight). Stopped abusing the pseudoephedrine and within 2 months I was at 190 and stayed there for a couple of years.


I agree, you should never feel guilty about being overweight. I hope my post didn't come off as too negative, that wasn't my intention. I just think people should be conscious of an ideal weight. sorry if I offended anyone. :oops:


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09 Jan 2007, 8:22 pm

If you're eating a very healthy diet, weight should be a secondary concern. A mostly vegan diet is the healthiest, though it goes so starkly against the mainstream, that it's hard to adhere to. My husband and kids are omni, so I have to cook separately for myself, and it can just get to be too much.


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09 Jan 2007, 8:28 pm

en_una_isla wrote:
If you're eating a very healthy diet, weight should be a secondary concern. A mostly vegan diet is the healthiest, though it goes so starkly against the mainstream, that it's hard to adhere to. My husband and kids are omni, so I have to cook separately for myself, and it can just get to be too much.


I think that *exercise* is very important in addition to a healthy diet. Going to the gym every day (0r even every odd day) is essential. Or you could do something else like run for an hour or bike for 2.


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10 Jan 2007, 9:48 pm

I'm not to attracted to women significantly bigger than me I like them to be around my size. I weigh in at 180lbs. The women I think are too fat are that way because they eat way too much food and do things like take the elevator one floor or drive somewhere only a block away.



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11 Jan 2007, 3:30 am

Just as a male on this subject, I wanna say that alot of males DISLIKE skinny girls, solely physically speaking. Now me personally, I lean towards athletic girls, even a bit muscly. What amuses me at the gym is girls thinking, if they lift too much weights or something they'll become a huge steroid looking freak woman.. when you MUST take steroids as a women to be that way. It's virtually impossible to get grossly buff for a woman trying to put on some muscle. Don't worry gals, go for it, a bit of nice, toned muscle is very attractive I think to most guys. Unless they're so wimpy, it intimidates them.

Now the only weight on a woman that turns me off is being far overweight due to sheer laziness and overeating. It's unhealthy and I think yes health is #1 here. But when it comes down to it, I'd MUCH prefer a slightly overweight girl to a bony-as-a-rail one. If it was obese vs rail-thin? I dunno, they're both unhealthy. If you just have a natural large frame, though, weight is just a number, there's better ways to judge if your healthy.