Low Testosterone?

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I have tested my T. twice and I have around 420 ng/dl, my brother tested it own and he has 900! Even though he's older than me and has diabetes.

Doctor said i have it within 'normal' range, but I am not convinced at all, according to my personal research men in the 35 age bracket usually have it 600 in average - I really it close to the lower end and I don't feel my libido very strong.


Have you ever tested your T.? How much was it?

I've never gotten it tested, but I'm certain mine has fluctuated over the years. When I get too lean for example, I have virtually no sex drive.
As for how to solve it, well.. who knows, it depends on the context.

From a macro nutrient perspective, I believe a balanced distribution between carbs, fats and protein is best for optimal T. Fats and carbs both stimulate different processes that increase testosterone, and protein is just a given.

From a micro nutrient perspective, it might be some vitamin deficiency, particularily B and D, in which case, eggs are your friends here. It also might be some dumb mineral deficiency like zinc or magnesium, in which case, seeds work really well. Steak is high in zinc aswell.

It is also often said that cholesterol is the building block for testosterone, in which case steak and eggs are your friends.

It also might be that you are just eating too little in general.

It also might be psychological(bad vibes), in which case, I can't help.

As for what seems to help most people, it's usually more fat, vitamin D, vitamin B, cholesterol, or zinc. Try eating more eggs and pumpkin seeds, and you'll more or less cover all of those. I clearly recall pumpkin seeds working wonders for my sex drive when I used to eat them alot, but of course every person/context is different.

You seem to practise common sense when it comes to your eating habits though, so that might not be the issue. But it can still be worth it to mess around with, because like me, you might find the weak link in the chain, and then it just clicks. Fortunately, it’s also very easy to tell when something is having a positive effect on your T.

I do have a very low vitamin D, I am on supplements.

The "normal" testosterone range is fairly broad and a person's levels can fluctuate. Testosterone levels can be low for a number of reasons, for example hypogonadism, pituitary tumors, high SHBG levels, and so on, so if you think your levels are low, the cause should be investigated. Supplimentation with exogenous testosterone can cause testicular atrophy and make you dependant on exogenous testosterone for life so one should discuss that with their doctor if one is considering supplimentation.

Well, the reason why I tested my T in the first place because I had symptoms of low T, including fatigue and at times low sex drive even with my gf. I had always this inexplicable fatigue for too long...

In both tests I got around 400, the second was bit low; from the samples I read on the internet it’s really low for a guy at my age; so yeah I am worried. I am balding a little too ... thesr are all symptoms of low T.

My doctor brushed me off saying that it’s normal and nothing to worry about - I am not convinced tho, I ll seek another doctor more specialist in this in particular.

But my brother has lower D yet he has much higher T.

I have been taking D supplements for a year but it’s still low.

I dunno if it’s just me or some Doctors sometimes seem to be... really ignorant when it comes to nutrition?

From the researches I read, a low-fat diet does decrease T; yet he encouraged a low fat diet (to
decrease my LDL which was bit higher, and improving HDL which is very low) even tho my T fell a bit between the two tests; and on the third test he removed the T test and included only Cholesterol! I mean shouldn’t an already at-lower-end T be monitored during a lowering-fat diet?
My D level also never improved in all tests and he didn’t increase my D supplement dosage at all; shouldn’t this mean that I need more D?

I am starting to think that I gonna take my health with my own hand rather than relying on a doctor.

Low fat diets are certainly not great for T levels. Low carb diets, although a lot better than low fat, run into some problems long term too, this is why I advocate moderate protein, moderate carb, moderate fat for optimal T levels.

Regarding vitamin D supplementation. It is extremely important to take the supplement with a fatty meal, since vitamin D is a fat soulable vitamin. If there is no fat for it to bind to, it won't get absorbed at all.

And btw yes, most doctors are ignorant or 30 years behind on nutrition. This is why I aspire to be a doctor who is actually "woke" on these matters.

Yeah, I mean my T level is 417 at my relatively young age 35 and even decreased from 437 (minimum lab is 300) while most guys at my age are around 600 in average according to ALL studies and my very brother who's older than me have it 900! and i told him i have fatigue and low sex drive....i mean shouldn't all this be alarming? and he was like 'naah you're within the normal range' . Yes, within the normal range now, what happens when i reach 40?

and he totally focused entirely on my little high LDL back then (135 while lab max is 120), and asked me to go low fat, he didn't warn me that the low-fat may even worsen my T. level, which was my main concern in the first place.

It seems he's one of those doctors who are trained that cholesterol is the greatest evil that need to be defeated as first priority, while T. level "isn't that important", yet the low T has far more proven bad effects on overall health than cholesterol.

This is really stupid.

This is also something very important that he failed to mention. I did a quick search on that, you're right.

Are you experiencing male-pattern baldness High T actually makes it worse because people with MPB have a genetic sensitivity to DHT which is kind of a byproduct of testosterone. One of the more extreme treatments for MPB that's suggested/recommended on hair loss forums is to take meds that lower testosterone.

I never had my T checked but I think I have high T or at least used to because I hit puberty early & had a very high sexdrive. I take meds nowadays partly to lower my sexdrive, reduce MPB & reduce my body & facial hair growth. Do you have a lot of facial & body hair growth because high T increases it.

When I used to be on opioids for chronic pain management my testosterone was as low as 80 ng/dl. I was severely depressed and fatigued at the time sleeping 18hours or more a day at time. I had hot flashes as well. I think my current T levels are in the low 300s.

Absolutely agree on the cholesterol - testosterone issue. Also, cholesterol turned out to be much more complex than what was initially thought. It turns out, to make any predictions, the ratio between HDL and LDL is far more important, or even looking at the size of the LDL particles themselves. Simply looking at LDL levels doesn't really say much about anything.

So hypothetically, if eggs for example raised LDL levels, but simultaneously raised HDL levels, and didn't increase the particle size, then it does not increase the risk of heart disease.

Also, as a weak psuedoscientific anecdotal arguement: It wouldn't make much sense from an evolutionary perspective, that beef liver, which is the most nutrient dense food on planet earth, simultaneously was extremely dangerous because it has high amounts of cholesterol. Same goes for eggs.

20+ years ago olive oil was considered dangerous.

Currently, I have it like the After one. I am taking Minoxidil 5% and it seems being bit effective, my barber told me last time he noticed newly born hairs he didn't see before.



I don't think body hair has to do with the T level, I am hairy, but my brother is hairless and has double T than I do.

When you say 'high sex drive" what do you mean by that? A lot of men mistakenly define this, a high sex drive doesn't just mean how frequent you get horny and how frequent you masturbate, but it's more about how long you can last during a real sex session, how long your erection can stay hard especially during intercourse.

Over-masturbation btw turned out not to be that healthy for men (and let's face it, it is never done moderately by most) as it was being promoted in the last two decades, there are researches are shading new lights on this and how it may affect T levels too. There are very crazy ignorant encouragements going on the internet saying that men should masturbate 21 times a month to reduce prostate cancer risk, this is B.S, because these studies talk only about ejaculation, ejaculation is good but not the masturbation and they fail to mention that - there's a big difference.

Masturbation without a partner over a long term makes you almost impotent in bed, this is becoming a very common issue and there are whole communities of nofap today. http://www.healthclue.org/effects-of-ma ... w-to-stop/