Are her parents right about chemotherapy?

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25 Mar 2024, 5:28 pm

My female friend is terrified of getting cancer one day because she fears that chemotherapy will cause bad hair loss. Her hair is very important to her. She has discussed this with her parents and they said to her “Well would you rather have chemotherapy or die?” And “chemotherapy saves lives”

Do you think her parents are not considering the devastating impact losing your hair can have on cancer patients when on chemotherapy and it now it effects self esteem/body image.



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25 Mar 2024, 5:31 pm

When a person is facing a life threatening illness, and there is a treatment available that might reduce a persons chance of dying from said illness, I think losing one's hair is an acceptable side effect. Sometimes the hair loss from chemotherapy is reversible.



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25 Mar 2024, 5:33 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
When a person is facing a life threatening illness, and there is a treatment available that might reduce a persons chance of dying from said illness, I think losing one's hair is an acceptable side effect. Sometimes the hair loss from chemotherapy is reversible.



Sometimes means not always though

I can understand though where my friend is coming from because hair to a woman is there ’ :heart:



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25 Mar 2024, 5:35 pm

While her folks aren't wrong, they're missing the point and invalidating her very valid concerns.


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25 Mar 2024, 5:37 pm

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While her folks aren't wrong, they're missing the point and invalidating her very valid concerns.



Like a lot of people she enjoys drinking wine and cocktails with friends on the weekend which also would put her at risk of cancer.


Maybe one day there will be vaccinations against cancer?



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25 Mar 2024, 5:39 pm

Jamesy wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
While her folks aren't wrong, they're missing the point and invalidating her very valid concerns.



Like a lot of people she enjoys drinking wine and cocktails with friends on the weekend which also would put her at risk of cancer.


Maybe one day there will be vaccinations against cancer?


Maybe some of them. There's already one for HPV, which can cause cervical cancer, oral cancers, etc.


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25 Mar 2024, 5:43 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
While her folks aren't wrong, they're missing the point and invalidating her very valid concerns.



Like a lot of people she enjoys drinking wine and cocktails with friends on the weekend which also would put her at risk of cancer.


Maybe one day there will be vaccinations against cancer?


Maybe some of them. There's already one for HPV, which can cause cervical cancer, oral cancers, etc.



Who do you think is more ignorant my friend or her parents?



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25 Mar 2024, 5:47 pm

Jamesy wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
While her folks aren't wrong, they're missing the point and invalidating her very valid concerns.



Like a lot of people she enjoys drinking wine and cocktails with friends on the weekend which also would put her at risk of cancer.


Maybe one day there will be vaccinations against cancer?


Maybe some of them. There's already one for HPV, which can cause cervical cancer, oral cancers, etc.



Who do you think is more ignorant my friend or her parents?


I think the parents are being insensitive, more than ignorant. I'm not sure I'd label either of them as ignorant.


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25 Mar 2024, 5:53 pm

Wearing a cold cap is known to reduce, even prevent hair loss through chemo for some. A cold cap is a hat that is worn during some chemotherapy treatments. Its cooling effect reduces blood flow to the scalp, which also reduces the amount of chemotherapy medication that reaches this area. This helps to prevent hair loss. It's usually worn for 15 minutes before each chemotherapy treatment.

There are some pretty amazing wigs now for those who do lose all their hair, if they choose.

So far as your friend’s parents comments go, they are perfectly reasonable in making such a statement. When it comes down to it, if your friend were ever in need of chemo, the reality is the will to overcome the disease & go on living would hopefully put things into perspective for her. One in three of us will wind up with cancer according to the latest news.

Many women do find it difficult & hugely emotionally challenging to lose their hair. But, hair will grow back & there is alot of support among both sufferers & those caring for them. A sense of true comaraderie. Overcoming the fear of hair loss, the fear of chemo, the fear of the side effects of chemo generally, the fear of the aftermath of the treatment & potential for the lack of success of the treatment, the potential returning of the cancer etc … there may always be fears to overcome in life, but I’d fear the deep nausea/vomitting far more than the hairloss(& I have long hair), having experienced 9months of it(hyperemisis gravidarum) said to be the same effect as chemo in that regard. It can be extreme & you may feel like death itself for the duration. Hair will be the last thing on your mind in that instance.



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25 Mar 2024, 5:55 pm

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Wearing a cold cap is known to reduce, even prevent hair loss through chemo for some. A cold cap is a hat that is worn during some chemotherapy treatments. Its cooling effect reduces blood flow to the scalp, which also reduces the amount of chemotherapy medication that reaches this area. This helps to prevent hair loss. It's usually worn for 15 minutes before each chemotherapy treatment.

There are some pretty amazing wigs now for those who do lose all their hair, if they choose.

So far as your friend’s parents comments go, they are perfectly reasonable in making such a statement. When it comes down to it, if your friend were ever in need of chemo, the reality is the will to overcome the disease & go on living would hopefully put things into perspective for her. One in three of us will wind up with cancer according to the latest news.

Many women do find it difficult & hugely emotionally challenging to lose their hair. But, hair will grow back & there is alot of support among both sufferers & those caring for them. A sense of true comaraderie. Overcoming the fear of hair loss, the fear of chemo, the fear of the side effects of chemo generally, the fear of the aftermath of the treatment & potential for the lack of success of the treatment, the potential returning of the cancer etc … there may always be fears to overcome in life, but I’d fear the deep nausea/vomitting far more than the hairloss(& I have long hair), having experienced 9months of it(hyperemisis gravidarum) said to be the same effect as chemo in that regard. It can be extreme & you may feel like death itself for the duration. Hair will be the last thing on your mind in that instance.




Off topic I see you live in Surrey. I live in Hampshire. :)



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25 Mar 2024, 6:05 pm

Hampshire’s a lovely place. I’m from Australia but felt like an adventure, so moved to the UK. Love it here!



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25 Mar 2024, 6:06 pm

I'd think I'd be afraid of getting cancer because of the risk of death - not hair loss from Chemotherapy. Besides, you don't have to lose your hair during Chemo anymore. 2 friends of mine have used the scalp-cooling device during their treatments and both still had a full head of hair.



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25 Mar 2024, 6:11 pm

Just curious what would happen in the unlikely scenario Kate Middelton died from cancer?



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25 Mar 2024, 6:24 pm

That would be a devastating loss for her husband, her young children, extended family & the nation as a whole, or at least, anyone who knows what loss can do. Dread to think of it, knowing what the loss of my own Mother did to me when I was 5. William will be King eventually, and hopefully with Kate by his side.



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25 Mar 2024, 6:26 pm

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That would be a devastating loss for her husband, her young children, extended family & the nation as a whole, or at least, anyone who knows what loss can do. Dread to think of it, knowing what the loss of my own Mother did to me when I was 5. William will be King eventually, and hopefully with Kate by his side.



I wonder what Kates funeral would be like? Would it be private or a big one perhaps



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25 Mar 2024, 7:06 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Do you think her parents are not considering the devastating impact losing your hair can have on cancer patients when on chemotherapy and it now it effects self esteem/body image.
I think her parents are considering the devastating impact that dying would have on their daughter (and them, of course).

They are wise to point out the  frivolity  stupidity of avoiding life-saving treatments in favor of one's appearance.


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