Neurodiversity and the Paranormal
A neurotic builds castles in the sky (has a fantasy world).
A psychotic lives in them (believes that their fantasy world is real).
What if there is a third category: people whose "fantasy world" actually is real.
I've heard from just enough honest, non-psychotic neurodiverse people who have also had paranormal experiences to wonder if this is the case.
I'm open to input from people with giftedness, synaesthesia, autism spectrum disorders, mood disorders, personality disorders, schizophrenia spectrum disorders, or any other kind of neurodiverse condition who have had experiences with the paranormal.
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Well, I was on my way to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I suddenly thought, "Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish. I think I'll kill the Fuhrer." Who's with me?
Watch Doctor Who!
I have a lot of clairvoyance. I do not believe in the super natural what so ever but believe that clairvoyance is just the result of an exchange of energy which I suspect may be able to travel through time.
Clairvoyance is a form of remote viewing.
i get clairvoyance all the time you know, but it is over very very abstract details most of the time. the cool thing is i experience it a good couple times a week to as much as half a dozen times a week. by abstract i mean that i notice the little details, but not the major things if that makes sense. for example i often might recognise the layouts of rooms and recognise the positions people are standing in. i will never originally have cla...irvoyance of the room as a hole but instead a series of small random details pop into my head in a very precise sequence. each comes with a feeling similar to de ja vu. the thing which always makes me realise that i had clairvoyance is that when i originally foresee the details, the order i forsee them in is usually the order i will see them in reality. this leads me to think that there is a transfer of energy between those two moments in time, which is happening relative to the speed of time on earth.
It just comes like one little detail at a time. The same also happens for conversations. I will never tend to recognise the words what will be said, but will recognise patterns of speech from conversations with people. that always seems to ...come bit by bit but i wont condense the clarvoyance as a whole. in other words i do not see the big picture. it is typical for autistic people to often just notice the minor details like i do, which is why i guess i pick up on these was the way i do.
People can say this is non existent or a delusional trick of the mind but people who regularly have these experiences learnt to differentiate.
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A psychotic lives in them (believes that their fantasy world is real).
What if there is a third category: people whose "fantasy world" actually is real.
People with non standard perceiving equipment live in a different world to the consensus reality.
Their world is as real as anyone else's, it is different though. Such people live in exclusive worlds that 'normal' folk can only enter through the use of mindbending drugs or techniques.
Some relevant stuff in this article I was just reading: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... print=true
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I wouldn't describe what I have experienced as "paranormal" by any means, but rather just as natural and normal as anything.
I'm bipolar and have experienced psychosis three times, in one bout of it I believed I was in heaven, hell, and that at one point I was speaking to God. The way I describe it is like dreaming while you're awake, you lose touch with what reality is and your world becomes a dream world where there is a distinction between what is really happening and what you are experiencing, odd, mystical maybe, but not paranormal.
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my paranormal experiences started when i was 7ish. i haven't had any for a while now... but I believe it's true that activity stirs up with construction of a location. and now..parents are painting a bedroom and will be re doing the floor. i hope it stays quiet.
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This might disappoint you but...
When I have seizures, it feels like I'm in the presence of divine beings, however I am a nontheist.
I see ghostly/angelic/demonic figures on a day to day basis which I know aren't real (you know those hallucinations you know automatically are just hallucinations?). According to my neurologist: "your brain is wired interestingly".
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A psychotic lives in them (believes that their fantasy world is real).
What if there is a third category: people whose "fantasy world" actually is real.
People with non standard perceiving equipment live in a different world to the consensus reality.
Their world is as real as anyone else's, it is different though. Such people live in exclusive worlds that 'normal' folk can only enter through the use of mindbending drugs or techniques.
Some relevant stuff in this article I was just reading: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... print=true
I don't think that the "realities" experience via mindbending drugs could be considered real.
I do agree with you on that thing about creative people though. I know two artists and I wouldn't consider them neurotypical at all.
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Well, I was on my way to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I suddenly thought, "Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish. I think I'll kill the Fuhrer." Who's with me?
Watch Doctor Who!
I have synesthesia and Aspergers... I've no idea if its schizophernia or synesthesia but I hear things other's dont and I get creeped out... I even feel things that never happen like someone's touching me when no one is... The sounds happen often but I've ignored them... The touching feeling happens occasionally but doesn't bother me because I know it isn't real.. wow but it feels real..
On two occasions I felt like I was being prodded by someone I was actually daydreaming [I was alone] and just got back to reality to avoid a drunk driver while I was parked [That night I dreamt of god... could've been bcoz of the experience..]That moment still makes me tremble... and the second incident happened when I was alone at home and was daydreaming... was prodded to reality just in time to go give an important exam that I scored full marks in...
When I discussed this with mom she said it was probably just my subconscious... Apparently some people's subconscious is so powerful it can guide you in such determining situations.. I don't hallucinate though..
Oh and I believe in god... But thats a whole different story... I don't think this was god...
I've dreamt a lot about stuff that has come true! I believe I have telepathy and this I am not joking about... I can feel my dog's pain when I am not with it! weird! but true! I once had a very pressing feeling that it was hot and needed water and got back home to see that my roomate locked the poor thing out in the sun coz it peed on her bed... [I thought this was just me worried but I kept having the same kinda feelings about something's wrong with the dog and there was something wrong with it!]
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Clairvoyance is a form of remote viewing.
i get clairvoyance all the time you know, but it is over very very abstract details most of the time. the cool thing is i experience it a good couple times a week to as much as half a dozen times a week. by abstract i mean that i notice the little details, but not the major things if that makes sense. for example i often might recognise the layouts of rooms and recognise the positions people are standing in. i will never originally have cla...irvoyance of the room as a hole but instead a series of small random details pop into my head in a very precise sequence. each comes with a feeling similar to de ja vu. the thing which always makes me realise that i had clairvoyance is that when i originally foresee the details, the order i forsee them in is usually the order i will see them in reality. this leads me to think that there is a transfer of energy between those two moments in time, which is happening relative to the speed of time on earth.
It just comes like one little detail at a time. The same also happens for conversations. I will never tend to recognise the words what will be said, but will recognise patterns of speech from conversations with people. that always seems to ...come bit by bit but i wont condense the clarvoyance as a whole. in other words i do not see the big picture. it is typical for autistic people to often just notice the minor details like i do, which is why i guess i pick up on these was the way i do.
People can say this is non existent or a delusional trick of the mind but people who regularly have these experiences learnt to differentiate.
how many fingers am I holding up?
Anyone who claims to have psychic powers and doesn't take the million dollar challenge through the JREF and claims not to need the money is LYING. Some charity or something could use the million.
"Well, I don't need to prove anything to anyone."
Are you going to deny the homeless and children and the sick and infirm money just because you have nothing to prove? Fraud!
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That is my spot, in an ever changing world, it is a single point of consistency. If my life were expressed as a function on a four dimensional Cartesian coordinate system, that spot, from the moment I first sat on it, would be 0-0-0-0.
Clairvoyance is a form of remote viewing.
i get clairvoyance all the time you know, but it is over very very abstract details most of the time. the cool thing is i experience it a good couple times a week to as much as half a dozen times a week. by abstract i mean that i notice the little details, but not the major things if that makes sense. for example i often might recognise the layouts of rooms and recognise the positions people are standing in. i will never originally have cla...irvoyance of the room as a hole but instead a series of small random details pop into my head in a very precise sequence. each comes with a feeling similar to de ja vu. the thing which always makes me realise that i had clairvoyance is that when i originally foresee the details, the order i forsee them in is usually the order i will see them in reality. this leads me to think that there is a transfer of energy between those two moments in time, which is happening relative to the speed of time on earth.
It just comes like one little detail at a time. The same also happens for conversations. I will never tend to recognise the words what will be said, but will recognise patterns of speech from conversations with people. that always seems to ...come bit by bit but i wont condense the clarvoyance as a whole. in other words i do not see the big picture. it is typical for autistic people to often just notice the minor details like i do, which is why i guess i pick up on these was the way i do.
People can say this is non existent or a delusional trick of the mind but people who regularly have these experiences learnt to differentiate.
how many fingers am I holding up?
Anyone who claims to have psychic powers and doesn't take the million dollar challenge through the JREF and claims not to need the money is LYING. Some charity or something could use the million.
"Well, I don't need to prove anything to anyone."
Are you going to deny the homeless and children and the sick and infirm money just because you have nothing to prove? Fraud!
http://www.dailygrail.com/features/the- ... -challenge
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well, alright then. I'm sure there are other folks out there who would offer some sum of money to offer proof.
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That is my spot, in an ever changing world, it is a single point of consistency. If my life were expressed as a function on a four dimensional Cartesian coordinate system, that spot, from the moment I first sat on it, would be 0-0-0-0.
There is no valid material evidence to support any claim for paranormal, psychic, or supernatural abilities, beings, or events.
When challenged for a demonstration, all that is offered in return are excuses, anecdotes, and personal attacks.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence".
The James Randi website offers their Million Dollar Challenge to anyone who can demonstrate a paranormal, psychic, or supernatural ability. So far, no one has won the prize.
Excerpt from the Million Dollar Challenge FAQ:
1.1 How long has this Challenge been open?
The Challenge was first introduced in 1964 when James Randi offered $1,000 of his own money to the first person who could offer proof of the paranormal. When the word got out, donors began stepping forward to help, and soon the prize had grown to One Million Dollars.
1.2 Where did Randi get this great idea for a Challenge?
During a live radio panel discussion, James Randi was challenged by a parapsychologist to "put [his] money where [his] mouth is", and Randi responded by offering to pay $1,000 to anyone who could demonstrate paranormal powers in a controlled test.
1.3 How many people have applied for the Challenge?
Between 1964 and 1982, Randi declared that over 650 people had applied. Between 1997 and February 15, 2005, there had been a total of 360 official, notarized applications. Applications continue to pour in!
1.4 Has anyone ever gotten past the preliminary test?
No. Some people use this fact as a reason not to apply – and yet the protocol is never altered once the applicant agrees to it. In fact, we ask the applicant to design the test.
1.5 Has anyone taken the formal test?
No. Applicants must pass the preliminary test in order to move on to a formal test. So far, no one has ever performed the paranormal ability they claimed to have.
Imagine earning ONE MILLION DOLLARS for a simple five-minute demonstration of (alleged) psychic abilities!
I call that "Easy Money".
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yup. A lot of people claim to have not needed the money and thus turned down the challenge.
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That is my spot, in an ever changing world, it is a single point of consistency. If my life were expressed as a function on a four dimensional Cartesian coordinate system, that spot, from the moment I first sat on it, would be 0-0-0-0.
What kind of doofus could NOT use ONE MILLION DOLLARS?
The kind that knows the truth about their alleged "psychic" abilities; which is, there is no such thing - only lies and deceptions.
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