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littlelily613
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26 Apr 2011, 3:44 pm

I am wondering if anyone here has been diagnosed with both classic autism and schizophrenia (as in, the psych or doctor said you had both without invalidating the first diagnosis)? Is this possible to get diagnosed with both, or does one automatically exclude the other?

***EDIT: So, I just did some research on my own, and found this in the dsm-iv criteria for schizophrenia:

Relationship to a pervasive developmental disorder: If there is a history of autistic disorder or another pervasive developmental disorder, the additional diagnosis of schizophrenia is made only if prominent delusions or hallucinations are also present for at least a month (or less if successfully treated).


Should I take this to mean that if the symptoms of schizophrenia seem VERY mild, then they are likely the result of autism instead?

I am still interested to know if anyone has been diagnosed with both though! :D



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26 Apr 2011, 4:44 pm

Two of my friends from my autism friendship group have!



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27 Apr 2011, 4:05 am

You might find something helpful in one of the other subforums. There have been a few threads on autism and schizophrenia in General Autism issues recently.



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27 Apr 2011, 5:40 am

i have both AS as well as a handful of other things including [low] schizoid personality disorder.



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27 Apr 2011, 12:09 pm

Schizophrenia is generally more illogical and fantasy based. They see things and hear voices a lot of the time. If a person has these things I would say they have a bigger problem than ASD.



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29 Apr 2011, 7:20 pm

I have been diagnosed with simotanious autism and schizophrenia spectrum disorders but not classic autism and schizophrenia at the same time. Ive gotten the following combinations diagnosed though.

Aspergers/Schizoaffective (most common)
Aspergers/Schizophrenia
Aspergers/Schizotypal
Autism/Schizoaffective
PDD-NOS/Schizoaffective
PDD-NOS/Schizotypal
PDD-NOS/Schizophrenia

Other things are usually thrown into the mix as well. Usually ADHD.
I havent gotten the classic autistic schizophrenic diagnosis before though.



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29 Apr 2011, 7:52 pm

I have been diagnosed with both classic autism and schizoaffective disorder. There are times where the autism is worse and others when the schizoaffective is more of a problem. I have the bipolar type but 99% depressive episodes. Very rarely mania or hypomania. I have moderate high functioning autism. There is one doctor at the hospital that never believed I was autistic until recently when I rocked back and forth constantly due to the stress. The doctor has been wrong constantly with me though, downplaying all my experiences including the schizoaffective disorder as well as the autism. All my other doctors haven't been downplaying as much as he did. I hope if I have to go to the insane asylum again, I don't see this idiot. At one time I was diagnosed with schizotypal personality disorder as well. I am just weird.



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29 Apr 2011, 9:14 pm

carltcwc wrote:
I have been diagnosed with simotanious autism and schizophrenia spectrum disorders but not classic autism and schizophrenia at the same time. Ive gotten the following combinations diagnosed though.

Aspergers/Schizoaffective (most common)
Aspergers/Schizophrenia
Aspergers/Schizotypal
Autism/Schizoaffective
PDD-NOS/Schizoaffective
PDD-NOS/Schizotypal
PDD-NOS/Schizophrenia

Other things are usually thrown into the mix as well. Usually ADHD.
I havent gotten the classic autistic schizophrenic diagnosis before though.


Wow, any ideas why they keep changing things so frequently? That must be frustrating?....



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29 Apr 2011, 9:14 pm

what's the difference between schizophrenia and schizoaffective?



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29 Apr 2011, 9:27 pm

I would imagine they change frequently because its hard for doctors to pinpoint where someone is on the spectrum.
Psychriactic lables are just things people made up to lable the symptoms someone is having so two doctors rarely call it the same thing.
Schizoaffective is Schizophrenia with an Affective Disorder such as Bipolar for example.



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29 Apr 2011, 9:27 pm

The difference between schizophrenia and schizoaffective (link)

Basically, schizoaffective includes mood symptoms and schizophrenia does not, and schizophrenia also needs to be present for a longer period of time to diagnose.


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01 May 2011, 1:24 am

Yes, I am a schizofriend. Been that way since I was born. I was born this way! I have schizophrenia.



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01 May 2011, 4:59 am

you're 8) Pastabilities
you're welcome here with us all :)
schizoid/schizotypal runs in my family.



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01 May 2011, 5:21 am

I have AS/Schizoaffective disorder with Bipolar Tendancies i think